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- SidecarFlipExplorer III
work2much wrote:
The one that's paid off.
That too. Number 2 priority. - SidecarFlipExplorer III
DWeikert wrote:
The easy answer is probably the truck with a GVWR much higher than the weight of the camper.
Exactly, but not too much higher, just a tad because too high and you loose suspension compliance. - Kayteg1Explorer IIThere are ClassA and ClassA.
The cheaper ones leave the manufacturer with 400lb cargo capacity, ride on narrow tires inflated to 110 psi and wander all over the road.
You want comfortable ride - check Sprinter-based classC or DP.
Bring your check book and mortgage information with you . - ScottGNomadUnless someone has owned all three brand new trucks there's just on way to answer this.
- jimh406Explorer IIII can only compare to the Holiday Rambler Class A I had. The Class A was a much more smooth ride especially with air bags. You should go for a ride and check it out.
- billy1davisExplorerThis is all very helpful to be my question now is Maybe a Class A motorhome would be a far better solution for my wife what do you think
- Grit_dogNavigatorYou've asked this question before and a long discussion ensued. You or your wife have back issues and it's too rough a ride.
We can't tell you how harsh is too harsh for your condition, but after owning or driving extensively at least 40 different pickups of all flavors and types of loads, I can say there is pretty much no way you're turning a HD pickup with 2 tons in the bed into a Cadillac.
Truck campers, best case typically, leave the front suspension under the same load as an empty truck. Most will unload the front a little or a lot resulting in an even harsher ride from the front axle. Rear axle will be as compliant as it could possibly be with all the weight on it.
The only significant front suspension improvements I can think of are either better springs like Carli or Thuren or air ride. BUT those options will lower the spring rate. Can't have high spring rate and soft ride at the same time, but I believe they will exaggerate the camper sway, because they're squishyer (if that's a word).
Could combat the sway with a heavy sway bar up front, but that will link both sides and effectively increase the spring rate of a particlaur side when it's compressed (like hitting a pothole).
That said, any or the newer trucks will ride slightly better when loaded compared to the ole 2nd gen lumber wagons, but not significantly. Moreso they'll drive better but may actually be stiffer as trucks and capacities have only been getting heavier since your 2nd gen rolled off the line.
Hope this helps? - work2muchExplorer
Kayteg1 wrote:
I like the idea about air suspension Dodge offers for rear and reviews are good so far.
We have been pleased so far although...
1. You can't fit a sway bar on the trucks fitted with factory air. I contacted Helwig and they have no plans at this time to develop one. The sway is a bit better than our 2004 ram 3500 with the same camper, but it would be nice to further reduce it. I might design my own.
2. The stock rear shocks seem to be shot after 15,000 miles. Passenger side showing a leak. In all fairness these are all miles with our camper on and a couple thousand of those on dirt roads in Alaska. Not a big deal, I was going to replace them anyway.
3. There is no way (that I am aware of) to inflate the bags individually. This became apparent with our AF1150 which is heavier on the slide side. In the old truck I would just add more air on that side.
The air bags look a lot like standard aftermarket units. If I were to do it over I would have ordered the truck with the standard heavier rear springs that would allow stable loads, sway bar and aftermarket airbags (if needed) - billy1davisExplorerwe have been told by a fellow camper that he is 2016 Chevy 3500 rides like a dream going down the road is that really possible carrying over 4,000 lb of a camper and if so is it possible to make my 2001 Dodge Dually ride like that also
- Kayteg1Explorer IIHow heavy?
The > 6000lb campers in the past would require 450/4500 duallies for the job, or 3 series with modifications.
For 2017 seem Ford and Dodge beefed up suspensions and my new truck handles the 11'-11" camper just fine. Had to add sulastic hangers for empty driving comfort.
I like the idea about air suspension Dodge offers for rear and reviews are good so far.
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