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Ace_
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Jul 03, 2015

Mostly Off Road T/C Questions

Please, pardon my ignorance.

My background: off road/remote/lightweight camping, lot of it in Jeeps, motorcycles, backpacking, ultra light fishing, etc., often in poor conditions (cold, snowing, wet, etc.).

Currently: I own a Super Duty (short bed) and am considering a truck camper. I like the idea of a pop-up truck camper for the low profile and lower center of gravity off road. I'm big on quality and am not sure which manufacturers offer quality products (maybe they all do nowadays). Offroadability (if that's a word) is paramount.

My concerns are cold weather camping and durability on rough roads. I drive on washboard and rutted out dirt roads (very) often. My Super Duty is built to go where I point it.

Questions: I've looked (online) at Northstar (TC650) and Outfitter. Are there others I should consider (my thought is mostly based on durability)? I'll likely buy new and have it for 10+ years.

Also, I currently own a short bed truck and am concerned with rear overhang. I don't want to catch jacks or the trailer on rocks, ruts, etc. In addition to that, I may want to tow a small utility trailer behind me and am concerned the longer truck camper might inhibit that (maybe it won't, so school me).

My son may inherit my truck in the next five years, which would mean I could buy any other truck (i.e., long bed). Although I appreciate the short wheelbase of the shorter box when off road. I don't know if the shorter campers feel a LOT tighter than the longer campers. Is there a huge difference between a 6.5 and 8 foot t/c? If I ever think I'd have a long bed, or is there a significant difference, should I be looking at an 8 foot camper? This may not be an issue if you have an awning or two and are really using the camper mostly for sleeping, or maybe not, tell me.

I really appreciate the help. I realize some questions are preference and you won't know mine, but knowing your preference and why will likely help me in my decision making.
  • Ace!
    I would exhaust many camper styles in depth to see what would work for you. When I was younger, I thought tent camping was the ticket. Now that I'm older, and want to camp AND TRAVEL in 3 seasons (not Summer), I enjoy the peace and quiet that comes with a small hardside that doesn't change shape. If you get the 4 season package with block foam insulation, 2x pane windows, and heated tanks, the winter is yours.
    My bro has a 9'6" OUTFITTER! and he likes it a lot. He has had many things go wrong with it in the 11 years he's owned it; but he can fix anything. YMMV. You need to know that his OUTFITTER! weighs more than my 8' 6" short bed Lance; and the weight is down low in both, so that's a consideration. Also, my Lance is only 16 inches taller than his OUTFITTER! in the down position. It just looks more top heavy. But there's no weight up high. Here's a pic with both for comparo: of course the bed on my Dodge is about 6" higher than his stock Ford:

    There are many ways to proceed. Just make sure you've looked at all your options.
    jefe
  • Ace! wrote:
    ....When buying new, is it reasonable to think you can get most t/c for $500 over invoice, $1,000 off MSRP, depending on time of year?


    While it's a bit of a drive, you might check out Dave Smith in :
    210 N. Division St.
    Kellogg, ID 83837
    (800) 635-8000


    It's where I ordered mine. Worth the 5.5hr drive from Seattle.
    I had to watch the purse strings or I would have tried to support the locals, but ???

    I have someone as others do too, if you need a contact.
    It's pretty well known that the pricings are good.

    Hope that Helps..
  • Thanks everyone. After reading your responses and looking at some of the links provided, I think the 8' is probably the better route.

    When buying new, is it reasonable to think you can get most t/c for $500 over invoice, $1,000 off MSRP, depending on time of year?
  • All I can tell you is my experience. I have an extended cab GMC Duramax and an Outfitter Apex 8. Very seldom done cold weather camping, so no help there. But I have driven some very rough roads, and have no problems with either the truck or camper. I have never drug a jack, but have touched them - so always a good idea to watch when appropriate.
    I looked carefully at Alaskan, Fourwheel, Northstar, and Hallmark before buying my Outfitter new in 2007. No regrets whatsoever.
    Trip reports are on my web site, with summaries here -- in the Truck Camper Trip Reports thread. A LOT of good information there.
  • Alaskan pop up campers, not cheap, but very well made and will last decades with care. No fabric to wear out or tear, no rubber roof, no filon sides and an interior that rivals any nice sailboat.
  • fourwheel camper is built for off road.i'd go with an 8 ft.it'll outlive your current truck.
  • Is it built better for off road and will it last longer than other brands when used off road?
  • Go with the 8 foot Outfitter,the extra length makes a big difference.