Forum Discussion
- I’m not an anti electric vehicle person. Actually almost bought the Mustang Mach E GT. Biggest reason I didn’t is the lack of level 3 chargers in my area which is central Alberta. My daughter lives in Walla Walla Washington, population 34,000 and lots of tourists because of its many wineries. There are 0 level 3 charging stations in Walla Walla. I’m guessing there’s many more cities all over with the same story.
schlep1967 wrote:
Some CGs allready ban EV charging for at least 2 reasons and most will in the future.
Just can't wait for the day when six of these trucks pull into the campground and all plug in on one leg/spur of electric supply. All of the campers that lose their A/C because the EV's killed the electric.....just might cause an uprising.
1. Extra cost
2. NEC code derating, meaning the total CG power is limited to about 50% of the total power for all of the site CBs.
Example: One CG I was at had a 100,000VA transformer supplying 18 50A sites. The sites totaled 216,000VA or 54% derating. ie Each site on average was limited to 46% * 50A = 23A @ 240V or 2x 23A 120V circuits. ie EV additional charging could cause one of the main CG CBs to trip.
FWIW My house has a 51% derating.way2roll wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
The ICE is only 120 years old. That’s still new technology in the grand scheme of things. To introduce a new type of power will take another 100 years to perfect. Until then you can not mandate something that is only effective for 20% of the population!
I am not an advocate for EV's - mainly because they aren't really the green silver bullet the hype would have us to believe.
But I think you have it backwards, I think they are not effective for 20% of the population but a very viable product for the other 80%. Most people don't tow or haul big loads, or even go 100 miles/day.
And last I heard, no one is mandating anything.
If it were viable for 80% of the population then there would be far more on the road! As a road trip vehicle even not towing, the time it takes to stop and charge makes them unattractive.
Maybe not mandating it, but when the government wants a certain percentage of vehicles to be electric by a certain time then that is mandating it with out actually mandating it!wildtoad wrote:
Tesla best come out with their space age, pickup truck (IMO ugly) soon or they may become an also ran. Same with the OTR truck. After a while you gotta deliver. All the delays allow competitors to catch up or surpass.
Tesla an also ran ? Who on this list will catch up or surpass Tesla ?
- I can’t see where the Cybertruck is going to do much better towing. Even with the 4680 cells and a 20% energy density increase you’re talking about an extra 20 miles or so.
- Tesla best come out with their space age, pickup truck (IMO ugly) soon or they may become an also ran. Same with the OTR truck. After a while you gotta deliver. All the delays allow competitors to catch up or surpass.
schlep1967 wrote:
Going to be a long wait just to be disappointed.
Just can't wait for the day when six of these trucks pull into the campground and all plug in on one leg/spur of electric supply. All of the campers that lose their A/C because the EV's killed the electric.....just might cause an uprising.womps wrote:
Actually, most 1/2 tons are used just as a mode of transportation and tow nothing in their lifespan.
As are a lot of vehicles - used far less than what they are capable of such as my Jeep. Daily driver, toad. May at some point in time be used to follow a dirt road out west through a park. I’d hate to shell out $80-120k for a vehicle to tow a fiver or TT and be so limited in hauling.schlep1967 wrote:
Just can't wait for the day when six of these trucks pull into the campground and all plug in on one leg/spur of electric supply. All of the campers that lose their A/C because the EV's killed the electric.....just might cause an uprising.
I don’t know. Most (if not all) campgrounds we have stayed at with our EV RV combo just have the “plug one thing in at a time” policy. It would depend on the unit of course but the load from the EV charging wouldn’t be that much more than some of the big RV’s out there. Many of us only rent 30 amp sites to begin with because that’s what our trailers use.
And if they are there multiple days they would only be plugged in for the first 12 hours or so.
I don’t think it will be a big deal. There will be some adaptation and rule amendments but that’s already happening. But campgrounds will want to provide amenities that customers want. Those that do will be successful. Those that don’t will get tagged and fade away. Kinda how the service industry works.
Jmho.- Ford knows their towing is abysmal. They don't care, because people that buy them also know it and don't care. That's not what the majority of F150 buyers -especially EV lightings buy them for. They're sold out, I hardly consider that a failure.
