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- Ford will be soon switching over to Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Here's some pro's and con's.
Pros:
Cost much less than lithium ion because they don't use exotic materials. ~10-15% BOM savings for Ford
The iron and phosphate are some of the most abundant materials on the planet
Provides 2-4 longer lifespan compared to lithium ion
Not a fire hazard (Big plus for Ford right now)
No charging rules. You can charge to 100% and drain to 0% with no ill effects
Cons:
As of now the energy density is 50% lower than lithium ion. Could be on par with lithium ion in the future.
Vehicles using iron phosphate batteries are typically heavier due to needing more cells to make up for the lack of battery density
Link propchef wrote:
lol what a trainwreck
Why hasn't this poor thread been closed?
Well let's see. It has some activity even though 99.9% of said activity is useless drivel mixed in with large amounts of BS, and it's funny as hell, so it has that going for it.- lol what a trainwreck
Why hasn't this poor thread been closed? - Deleted
shelbyfv wrote:
Well heck, you guys have convinced me with your novel and well informed arguments. Obviously it's a hoax. All the pointy heads agree only because they are colluding to ruin our economy and reduce our sperm count! Before my epiphany I figured agreement was because they had the right answer. Sure is a lot less worrisome now that I am back on track. All that "science" was taxing my little pea brain.:h
Science is important if it's unbiased. There's a lot of science that tells us the materials for producing batteries for EV's is not only ecologically damaging but caustic as well. And what's the 'not so long term' plan to handle all these caustic batteries when they die? Is it a hoax that conventional methods for generating energy like coal are still being used in the manufacture and charging of EV's? You think the equipment to mine all these materials are electric drills and bulldozers, loaders, ships? It's no hoax but the facts have been beaten into submission to promote an agenda. There's a finite amount of resources required to make EV's. They are looking to mine the sea floor for newer deposits which have unforeseen impacts to ecosystems we know little about. EV's are already pointing the gun to ruin parts of the earth we haven't yet ruined. In the end EV's, cradle to grave, are no more green than modern ICE's. Just trading one set of issues for another. It's exciting and new and that generates money and votes. But to say you're saving the planet by buying an EV is ignoring science and facts. EV's aren't an answer to the problem. They are just another product that mimics the pillage of the earth just like ICE's and thousand other products. And they won't rescue us from global warming. They're making a few folks rich though and getting votes for others.8.1 Van wrote:
One of the most severe concerns for oil patch workers, contractors and consultants is the risk of facing fires and explosions. There are about 100 oil rig fires every year in the U.S. or about one every three days.
Possible Explosion Causes Injuries at Texas Oil Refinery
WTF does posting this type of BS have to do with anything? Do you ever post anything other than pictures and links? Why not go back to your Musk worshiping thread and post this foolishness there?One of the most severe concerns for oil patch workers, contractors and consultants is the risk of facing fires and explosions. There are about 100 oil rig fires every year in the U.S. or about one every three days.
Possible Explosion Causes Injuries at Texas Oil RefineryFishOnOne wrote:
Reisender wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
For your viewing entertainment. Obviously this excludes the Canadian oil sands which technically is a form of mining.
That’s the Escondida copper mine in northern Chile. No lithium there. I makes for a great story though.
No but it sure could tell a story for the future.
Who knows. But copper mines are not going away even if people don’t like the looks of them. Society uses a LOT of copper. We have a bunch of mines in our province and there is more coming.
Jmho.- wow, what I realy want to know is not the range it can tow at capacity but how far can it go with 2000lbs in the box. might be a nice setup for a small camper.
a buddy of mine finaly got his last month and absolutly loves it. I'll admidt its kinda neat, but for me it would have to be able to get a decient range with 2000lbs in the back to work for me right now, but I would still need my F350 for towing the 5th. when a electric can get 500 miles towing 14000 lbs then I will trade in my F350.
Steve Reisender wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
For your viewing entertainment. Obviously this excludes the Canadian oil sands which technically is a form of mining.
That’s the Escondida copper mine in northern Chile. No lithium there. I makes for a great story though.
No but it sure could tell a story for the future.
