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goducks10 wrote:
It would be silly to run a new Ram CTD at 2100 rpms all day. My 12 runs around 1700-1800 at 65 mph or so. Even when I'm running in the mtns and lock out 6th it's never over 2000 rpms and usually around 1800-1900. I would suggest that just for giggles you trot on down to the nearest Ram dealer and test drive one.
My '98 12v Cummins ran 2500rpm all day towing or not. Had no choice with the 4.10/5spd. It was actually quieter than the clatterless '03 common rail Cummins at 2100rpm. The 2001.5 3.55/6spd was a pleasure to drive at 1750rpm. Just the same, the Ford is quieter in my experiences as well as the recent FLTruck test.Bionic Man wrote:
If you want the Ford, buy the Ford. But don't base it off the noise, especially when you haven't driven the new trucks.
Andre and Kent seemed to notice the noise difference in the brand new trucks. 60db is normal conversation level. 75db is shop vac level.Hannibal wrote:
Me Again wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
The Ford is the quietest? I'll take it. The Cummins hum can get pretty old after a long day driving.
And according to you sig line you have never owned a 4th gen RAM!
On the road towing with the lower RPM RAM may be quieter than the higher RPM Ford. Chris
There are a few reasons for not continuing with Ram. 71db to 68db is quite a bit quieter in the new ones. The Ram has a collection of vibration dampeners bolted under it attempting to quiet it down. Apparently, it hasn't. My '03 common rail Cummins was as quiet as a new on with regard to diesel clatter. It's the Cummins hum that turns into Cummins drone after a long day on the road. I believe it was at 2100rpm under load if I remember correctly.
It would be silly to run a new Ram CTD at 2100 rpms all day. My 12 runs around 1700-1800 at 65 mph or so. Even when I'm running in the mtns and lock out 6th it's never over 2000 rpms and usually around 1800-1900. I would suggest that just for giggles you trot on down to the nearest Ram dealer and test drive one.- Glad you're enjoying your Ram. Mine is also a real life experience report over many years. The "Dreaded drive line vibe" in the Rams was common even in later models. To my surprise, even the Hemi powered 2500HD had it. The reality for me is, after five Rams, the F250 is the first truck I've owned in many years that I'm not anxious to trade off for some reason or another.
Hannibal wrote:
Me Again wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
The Ford is the quietest? I'll take it. The Cummins hum can get pretty old after a long day driving.
And according to you sig line you have never owned a 4th gen RAM!
On the road towing with the lower RPM RAM may be quieter than the higher RPM Ford. Chris
There are a few reasons for not continuing with Ram. 71db to 68db is quite a bit quieter in the new ones. The Ram has a collection of vibration dampeners bolted under it attempting to quiet it down. Apparently, it hasn't. My '03 common rail Cummins was as quiet as a new on with regard to diesel clatter. It's the Cummins hum that turns into Cummins drone after a long day on the road. I believe it was at 2100rpm under load if I remember correctly.
Your 03 Cummins is not nearly as quiet as a new one. I've had both. No comparison.
If you want the Ford, buy the Ford. But don't base it off the noise, especially when you haven't driven the new trucks.- We have a 2015 with 26K on it in 18-19 Months. 1400 miles in the first 48 hours. At 80 MPH it is out for Sunday drive.
Towed 2.5 times between Washington and Arizona! Drove home for Christmas in 3 days(1650 miles) towing a 16" box trailer and return with it full in 3 days. NO DRONE! NO VIBRATIONS! Towed the old 5th wheel at 22K combined weight round trip last winter. This last fall we came down with the new trailer at 24K combined weight. Quiet and relaxing on long tow days.
That is a real life experience report, not the complaints from a small number that have had vibration issues.
Chris Me Again wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
The Ford is the quietest? I'll take it. The Cummins hum can get pretty old after a long day driving.
And according to you sig line you have never owned a 4th gen RAM!
On the road towing with the lower RPM RAM may be quieter than the higher RPM Ford. Chris
There are a few reasons for not continuing with Ram. 71db to 68db is quite a bit quieter in the new ones. The Ram has a collection of vibration dampeners bolted under it attempting to quiet it down. Apparently, it hasn't. My '03 common rail Cummins was as quiet as a new on with regard to diesel clatter. It's the Cummins hum that turns into Cummins drone after a long day on the road. I believe it was at 2100rpm under load if I remember correctly.patriotgrunt wrote:
Just looking at the miles on each truck, the Ram had 1762 when they started, the Chevy had 1170 at the beginning, and the Ford showed 730 at the start. These trucks won't break-in and get their best mileage until much later. The difference in miles could also be why one gets a little better mileage than another. Also, I'm not sure what the 2017 recommendation is, but my SuperDuty was not supposed to tow until it reached 1000 miles. I wonder if it is impacting the performance?
Most break in mileage suggestions for modern trucks are for the rear differential gear wear in and not the engine.
RAM suggest 500 miles and then drive it like you stole it.
Chris- Just looking at the miles on each truck, the Ram had 1762 when they started, the Chevy had 1170 at the beginning, and the Ford showed 730 at the start. These trucks won't break-in and get their best mileage until much later. The difference in miles could also be why one gets a little better mileage than another. Also, I'm not sure what the 2017 recommendation is, but my SuperDuty was not supposed to tow until it reached 1000 miles. I wonder if it is impacting the performance?
- I think at this point, with the massive amount of power and torque available in each brand it's time to start looking at mileage improvement. It makes sense to me logically and it would look good from an EPA perspective...........not that I really care about the EPA, but it's a game the Big 3 need to play and anything that can be done to keep us rolling with great pickups is the smart.........again, my opinion, not looking for a fight.
