My Traveling Poll, Results.....

patriotgrunt wrote:

This actually sounds objective and mirrors what I generally notice. No particular brand is dominating the roads. Call us crazy I guess.

This has got to be the award-winning comment of the thread.
You're saying the following:
A guy drives across country with a notepad and reports recorded information = NON OBJECTIVE
A guy reports on general observations of his daily commute in the same region without focusing on the same criteria = OBJECTIVE
Is it deemed objective because it "mirrors what you see"?
Funny that you followup by saying that no particular brand dominates the road when in every other post you've insinuated that Ford dominates. Hmmmmm.....

I have no problem with either fella's reports and/or observations.

45Ricochet wrote:
Sure is a bunch of new recruits, err fish troll comments, err new members lately :W
Life is good eh Marty :B

When I posted this I stuck to what I saw not why one is better. I figured there would be some remarks that had nothing to do with what segment I was referring to. I think so far in general the comments have been good.

jerem0621 wrote:

GM's new Silverado 3500 Dually is a beautiful truck!
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LOL
Yeah from the drivers side, but that DEF tank hanging down under the passenger seat is horrible looking IMO.
And don't tell me GM don't know where the DEF fill should be as the Colorado and Canyon have the DEF fill hole right next to the diesel hole just like Ram and Ford.
That hood fill hole is poor at best. Oops I just spilled some DEF on my fender in Arizona in August heat of 110F.
Yeah great looking trucks just like the other two brands IMO.

Sure is a bunch of new recruits, err fish troll comments, err new members lately :W
Life is good eh Marty :B

DirtyOil wrote:

I prefer Oreo Blizzards from Dairy Queen, myself. :B

I have a hard time choosing between Oreo and Strawberry-Bannana. Good thing I have a wife with similar tastes and we can share. :)

84.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.

jerem0621 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sorry if my reports that are TRUE hurt some feelings. I have said ALL three trucks are good within their warranty but this poll I did should give people in the market for a new truck and plan on keeping it after the warranty is gone something to consider.

If anyone doubts that RAM dominates "THIS" market then THEY truly are wearing rose colored glasses. I do fully understand RAM does not sell the most trucks.

I posted this with facts as "I" have seen them, anyone that knows me knows I do not fabricate anything. I have no reason to.

I have to say I don't think there has been one GM owner comment so far negatively on this thread, HMMMMMM.

Hey Cummins, I'm on the road every day with a pretty significant commute on interstate roads. I am on I24 coming to Chattanooga TN which is a major artery connecting to I75... Needless to say.. I see a huge variety of rigs on the road. Here are some observations I see on the interstate...

1) I see a lot of Gooseneck car haulers being towed by 03-08 Rams... like a crazy weird amount. I see all brands of trucks hauling these.. just a disproportional amount of 03-08 Rams.
2) Most Travel Trailers being towed by hotshots are SRW... I see more GM's than anything else followed by Ram and Ford
3) Most agriculture (horse/cattle/livestock trailers) seem to be towed by Fords
4) Most big RV's seem to pulled by Fords (F150/F250/F350's)
5) Huge increase in mid-sized SUV's towing travel trailers ... mostly Durango's and Grand Cherokee's
6) seems 9 out of 10 "work trucks" used in construction etc...are Fords..
7) I do see half tons towing heavy RV's every day, but for every Half Ton towing a big RV I will see 3-5 HD trucks from any of the big three towing
8) I see less and less full size SUV's towing Travel Trailers
9) I still see a lot of 6.0 Powerstrokes on the road, towing, hauling, working... pretty interesting
10) Seems that every Cummins powered truck from 94-2002 is still on the road. I hardly ever see Ford's or Chevy's from the same time period... but I see 94-02 Cummins Rams all the time (rust and all)
11) I have been seeing an increase in Mid 80's (80-87) Chevy trucks on the road. Not sure why... Not seeing an increase in Fords or Dodges... just the 80-87 Chevy Trucks...strange
12) The midsize truck market is exploding...
13) Most trucks on the road are not really trucks.. They are big Honda Accords...i.e. commuter trucks hauling around 1 person
14) Just so I don't stop at 13 :B... GM's new Silverado 3500 Dually is a beautiful truck!

Just casual observations from the daily commute.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

This actually sounds objective and mirrors what I generally notice. No particular brand is dominating the roads. Call us crazy I guess. Have a great night guys; I look forward to the fun tomorrow and safe travels if you're on the road.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sorry if my reports that are TRUE hurt some feelings. I have said ALL three trucks are good within their warranty but this poll I did should give people in the market for a new truck and plan on keeping it after the warranty is gone something to consider.

If anyone doubts that RAM dominates "THIS" market then THEY truly are wearing rose colored glasses. I do fully understand RAM does not sell the most trucks.

I posted this with facts as "I" have seen them, anyone that knows me knows I do not fabricate anything. I have no reason to.

I have to say I don't think there has been one GM owner comment so far negatively on this thread, HMMMMMM.

Hey Cummins, I'm on the road every day with a pretty significant commute on interstate roads. I am on I24 coming to Chattanooga TN which is a major artery connecting to I75... Needless to say.. I see a huge variety of rigs on the road. Here are some observations I see on the interstate...

1) I see a lot of Gooseneck car haulers being towed by 03-08 Rams... like a crazy weird amount. I see all brands of trucks hauling these.. just a disproportional amount of 03-08 Rams.
2) Most Travel Trailers being towed by hotshots are SRW... I see more GM's than anything else followed by Ram and Ford
3) Most agriculture (horse/cattle/livestock trailers) seem to be towed by Fords
4) Most big RV's seem to pulled by Fords (F150/F250/F350's)
5) Huge increase in mid-sized SUV's towing travel trailers ... mostly Durango's and Grand Cherokee's
6) seems 9 out of 10 "work trucks" used in construction etc...are Fords..
7) I do see half tons towing heavy RV's every day, but for every Half Ton towing a big RV I will see 3-5 HD trucks from any of the big three towing
8) I see less and less full size SUV's towing Travel Trailers
9) I still see a lot of 6.0 Powerstrokes on the road, towing, hauling, working... pretty interesting
10) Seems that every Cummins powered truck from 94-2002 is still on the road. I hardly ever see Ford's or Chevy's from the same time period... but I see 94-02 Cummins Rams all the time (rust and all)
11) I have been seeing an increase in Mid 80's (80-87) Chevy trucks on the road. Not sure why... Not seeing an increase in Fords or Dodges... just the 80-87 Chevy Trucks...strange
12) The midsize truck market is exploding...
13) Most trucks on the road are not really trucks.. They are big Honda Accords...i.e. commuter trucks hauling around 1 person
14) Just so I don't stop at 13 :B... GM's new Silverado 3500 Dually is a beautiful truck!

Just casual observations from the daily commute.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

So if you narrow down the field sufficiently, anyone can be in first place or the leader. Sounds about right.

patriotgrunt wrote:

Economic 101 would say you're wrong. BTW I'm not a fanboy of any particular brand. I've owned all three and I recently sided with you guys when another poster called Ram junk. I've done this before as a game with my boys and Ram has never dominated. It certainly has good representation but never 4x the Fords or 6x the GMs. The OP claims to hardly see a Ford doing work along I-5 both north and south. Do you know how unlikely that is? Take off the Ram colored glasses and come back to reality. The major hitch manufacturers cater to Ford's 5th wheel hitch prep package for a reason. Likely its because its a large market with lots of profit but that just the capitalist in me coming out.

Oh, I don't think Economics 101 would necessarily say he's wrong.

Niche segments of the market often don't reflect the proportions of the overall market. Niche markets, like hotshotters, often have different criteria or needs that cause them to cluster much more than the overall market. And Cummins was specifically referring to hotshotters, not ALL work trucks or RV tow vehicles.

For example, look at police cars. For a couple of decades, they were heavily dominated by Crown Victorias, with a smaller group of Caprices. They weren't at all brand proportional to overall sedan sales by brand or model.

Same observation could be made about ambulance chassis trucks being controlled by Ford for a long time. Again, sales weren't proportional to the overall vehicle brand stats.

Look at campers, namely dedicated full-timers. Do they buy fifth wheels by brand in the same proportions as the overall market sells? Lots of Forest River and Keystone entry level models? Or do they cluster in the higher-end models like DRV that better fit their needs?

Step outside vehicles for a moment, and look at computers. Windows computers have been dominant in sales for 20+ years. But if you look at the niche market of graphic designers, Macs held a commanding sales lead. Sales within that niche were not proportional to the overall market.

Now, I have no idea if Cummins12V98's numbers are reflective of the overall makeup of hotshotters. But it's certainly feasible, given that it's a very limited segment of truck owners. Those numbers may have very little resemblance to the normal market shares. But the broader you expand the scope, the more and more it will resemble the overall market breakdown.

I guess we don't care enough. I know there are more important things these days to think about like which restroom to use.

chevman