New 2015 Ram 1500 ECODIESEL HFE

boocoodinkydow wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:


...............First hand experiences are preferred. Like straight from the horses mouth.........
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I concur a thousand percent, ninerbikers. Unless your a$$ has graced the pilots seat of an ecodiesel & towed or hauled from where do you naysayers draw your "experience" to pronounce where it's capabilities lie? If you want some experiences from "the horses mouth" visit the tow/haul subforum @ our ram1500diesel forum & see where "johnc" spent last summer towing 33' open range 5er; or "mhintze experiences double towing a smaller 5er with his boat or a couple of atvs; "cuzzinolaf's" trip with 4 >200# dudes in the cab, snow mobile in the bed & hooked to a 24' enclosed trailer with another 3 snow machines, gear & trappings for a weekend trip in Wyoming, and on and on and on!! Check it out, many accompanied with pix.

Even this is no guarantee of capabilities... as it depends on each and every application. A Box shaped TT tows like dog sh*t with all the aerodynamic resistance, regardless of weight. Add in if you tow in the Midwest Flats, or the mountains of the North East, or the Rockies and Sierra Nevada mountain ranges with passes over 10,000 feet in elevation and very narrow roads.

Every situation is unique to the owner. Some owners do what I consider tremendously taxing and dumb overload situations with their work trucks, far beyond engineered design limits, because they are cheap, or can't afford the proper tool for the job, or flat out young, dumb and ignorant. Age has a way of weeding the mentally challenged out with annual Darwin Awards.

I used to believe that the American Public was capable of applying some Common Sense, but nowadays, from my POV, common sense isn't so common. Somehow, it's been lost on this newer, younger, up and coming generation... YMMV, these are just my observations.

Another observation I get is folks that post on BB's on outrageous weights or size of things that they have towed, as if it's the equivalent of Internet Bragging Rights. Just because nothing has gone wrong yet does NOT mean that one day, Murphy Law will bite you in the A$$ with huge losses, be it product, truck, or even the ultimate, one's life. Another case of "You can't fix stupid" maybe not, but Darwin can and does, daily. It's when stupid damages innocent peoples lives on our public roads and puts everyone else at risk that I draw the line. If you demonstrate ignorance of limits on the internet, with pictures, with supreme feats, and someone else emulates you and fails, should you be held liable for demonstrating the wrong use of said vehicle for all to see and then have idiots apply a "monkey see, monkey do" mentality? Skill levels in emergency situations vary... some train to react correctly to emergency maneuvers, the majority are ill equipped to handle it correctly.