New Big Dog on the block

DirtyOil wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Flashman wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

boshog wrote:
Interesting discussion in this thread. While it is OK to be a fanboy of a specific brand, I really think some folks get a little carried away defending their brand with out-of-ontext statements and just plain false information.

Let's not forget the screwing Ford laid on the Powerstroke users with years of warranty denials as their design evolved. The Duramax had issues too but GM backed them up. The current Powerstroke (Duramax too) have issues albeit not as major as in the past. Ford and the Powerstroke's designer AVL, have managed to get a longer stroke in a V8 configuration bringing the low end grunt closer to a long stoking Cummins in-line six. Yeah for them, this sets the stage for an all around good performing engine.

Most of us here all pulling weights around the country and have little interest in zero to 60 times, or the few seconds difference pulling a load up the mountain. What we really want is good MPG and reliability, and that is exactly what the Cummins delivers historically, something neither GM or Ford can even come close to claiming and supporting.

Maybe the future will change this but Ford is going to have to earn it and so far they are not. They still offer a less powertrain warranty as does GM compared to the RAM Cummins. Ford still will not rate their Superduties against the SAE towing standard, something GM started doing for model year 2016 and RAM has been doing since 2014 model year.

When I started to read the above post I initially thought it was going to be a legitimate post with some actual facts, but after the first paragraph I was wrong. This post is chalked full of wrong information right down to the reliability of the cummins. If your above post was referring to the 5.9 I would agree, but the 6.7 and it's emissions equipment does not support the legend. And the warranty of the Duramax and the Power Stroke is the same as ram.

I can say I got to spend some time with my cousin this past Christmas who works on these 5.9/6.7's and for some owners they had some very expensive bills last year.

Your cousin

LOL

Yep my cousin... He's been wrenching on diesel trucks starting at a Ford dealer in '93 and now works mainly on Ram diesel's.

And Cousin has been enjoying working on the Rams...longer coffee breaks and lunch breaks (not much else going on in the shop anyways) :B

Yeah he said he has a lot more red tape to go thru to get warranty approval on those Rams too than what he was used on the Fords. There's currently 3 diesel techs in the Chrysler shop and 2 in the Ford shop and I think its' been that way for a couple of years now.

On his coffee break he changes out steering links and claims he can do it in his sleep. He showed me a picture behind the shop of several 55 gallon drums full of steering parts.