new GMC 1500 2x4. No one needs 4x4 anyway

I think some of the replays by Supercharged are spot on.

oh and the stealers (oops I mean dealers) taking a beating. LOL sometimes they may make less than others. :W

In Florida, 4X4 trucks are very common and sought out. Dealers take a hit with a 2 wheel drive truck, I know about the whole upfront cost thing. Anyway I think there more popular here because of all the sand and some redneck folk like mudd bogging....lol

Copperhead wrote:
I admit I live on rural gravel roads and 4x4 is critical during bad weather and doing things on the property, but for anyone who does more than hard lot KOA type of camping, 4x4 can also be critical. I think remote boon docking is great. Not sure I would care for a 4x2 pickup to get me in and out of many of those locations.

Either way. Better to have the capability and not need it than to need it and not have it.

I grew up on Iowa gravel roads in the 40 and 50's, The school bus always went down the roads, maybe when show was three feet deep it was slowed down other that that no one needed one or the old farmer would have demaned one.
Today the new farmer needs, the gov. to get him up in the morning and give him extra money to farm and live.

I admit I live on rural gravel roads and 4x4 is critical during bad weather and doing things on the property, but for anyone who does more than hard lot KOA type of camping, 4x4 can also be critical. I think remote boon docking is great. Not sure I would care for a 4x2 pickup to get me in and out of many of those locations.

Either way. Better to have the capability and not need it than to need it and not have it.

tinner12002 wrote:

Supercharged wrote:
Got wife 2018 GMC 1500. No one but famers,ranchers, ult. company, cops, logers, and people up in Canada need 4x4, just something saleman sell people who have good credit anyway. Waist of money.

That's just your opinion, not mine!

These guys have never pulled a big boat out of a a slime covered boat ramp. LOL My truck is used only for RVing, grocery gettin, and fishin and I need 4wd.

Some of you sound like my dearly departed dad. “I can go anywhere with 2wd posi that a 4x4 can go......”
Ok, follow me! Bet ya dinner you don’t make it back for dinner!

burningman wrote:
What’s a “loger” anyway?

That's funny, glad you caught that also...Lol!

Supercharged wrote:
Got wife 2018 GMC 1500. No one but famers,ranchers, ult. company, cops, logers, and people up in Canada need 4x4, just something saleman sell people who have good credit anyway. Waist of money.

That's just your opinion, not mine!

Gdetraler,

Supercharger made a strong statement stating,"No one needs 4X4 anyways."

You said, "Dealer lots are full of 4x4s for a reason and it is not because "everyone" wants one, it is because the dealer makes a much, much larger PROFIT MARKUP on the 4x4."

This is also a strong opinion which 7 pages of opinion has refuted. I don't personally care what type of vehicle anyone drives.

The point I was trying to make was in your neck of the woods, 100% of the higher end RV's sold has A/C because people demand it like many of the areas of the states and Canada who demand 4X4 trucks. And selling a rig without A/C or 4X4 is less appealing when reselling.

I have a barebones Ford XLT 4X4 truck without the $20,000 added on electronics package where the dealers really make their money. I am happy with what I have but 4X4, it is not an option, it is a requirement.

Dave

crosscheck wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:

travelnman wrote:
Resale on 2x4's is next to nothing. I can understand it from reading other
campers on here and my own experience. If your going to stick with it pay
the extra for the 4x4 and avoid your wife yelling things like stupid. I saw
a guy tear up a campground site trying to get out after a storm, he had to pay
for the damages when his truck slide over and hit the plumbing and electric.

Umm.. DUH.. 4x2s COST A LOT LESS to buy when new.

Nearly $4K less not including any other extra required options which tend to push that to $5K-$6K less cost than 4x4.

When resale time comes I highly doubt a 4x4 is going to sell for $5K-$6K more than a 4x2..

Kind of like Diesel vs gas, of course a Diesel truck is going to sell for a bit more than gas and the reason is that a Diesel engine costs more up front.

Sure, the market for folks who might be in the market for 4x2 is smaller now days, but none the less, used 4x2s being cheaper can get one into a pickup truck that may not afford the asking price for a used, beat up 4x4 of the same age and mileage.

If you "want" 4x4, buy it, if you NEED 4x4, buy it.. If you simply need a pickup truck without all the bells and whistles, don't need or want 4x4 and have a small budget, buy a 4x2..

Dealer lots are full of 4x4s for a reason and it is not because "everyone" wants one, it is because the dealer makes a much, much larger PROFIT MARKUP on the 4x4..

I have a trailer that has A/C. Never use it. Don't want it. Came with the unit. My truck has 4x4. Use it all the time, winter and summer. So looking at your last statement, substitute A/C for 4x4 and you get, " Dealer lots are full of A/C units for a reason and it is not because "everyone" wants one, it is because the dealer makes a much, much larger PROFIT MARKUP on the A/C."

Try selling a non A/C unit to a family from Pa who camps in the summer at 95F and 95% humidity. Tell them that most families don't need/want A/C in an RV and your resale value will be better without A/C. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Dave

No problem buying or selling a RV without A/C in PA, I have bought trailers without A/C or a working fridge..

Window shaker A/Cs can be easily installed AND well hidden for $200 and $300 home fridges can be easily installed in a RV and it doesn't take a bunch of batteries as some folks like to scare people with..

Pretty weak comeback you have..

By not buying 4x4 I SAVE a bunch of money upfront, I GAIN more cargo capacity (about 500-600 lbs which isn't anything to sneeze at) and I GAIN gas mileage (I average 1-2 MPG BETTER than similarly equipped 4x4, I SAVE tons of money on insurance (Insurance IS based on your vehicles purchase cost and "value").

I can buy many sets of winter tires and it costs me much less than buying 4x4..

Like I said, if you WANT 4x4 then by all means buy it, don't come back and complain about lack of cargo capacity, mileage, cost or insurance..

There IS very valid reasons as to folks intentionally buying a 4x2..

I don't mock those who buy 4x4s so don't mock me for a 4x2.