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EddieS
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Jun 26, 2018

New (to me) Lance 815 truck camper owner. Got a few q's

Just got my first truck camper. Have had a 5th wheel for a while before. Got a few questions:

I have a 2007 F250 crew short box, 4x4, 6.0. Just picked up a used 2006 Lance 815 with east/west queen. The fellow I got it from had a similar truck (but long bed), and helped me construct a 2.5" platform in the bed (horizontal 2x4s with two sheets of 1/2" OSB). He said he read it somewhere that the camper needed to be raised off the tops of the bed rails by that much.

Q 1 - Is there a standard?

He had the short bed modification boxes that came with it from the factory (and the original owner before him), but my tailgate cables were in the way, and I had to cut slots in the plastic boxes to be able to slide the camper all the way forward.

Q 2 - Is this typical?

I have the towing and camper package on the truck, and my GVWR is 10K (5,600 FAWR/6,100 RAWR), and my sticker states I have a 2,399 max load rating. Before getting this camper, I hauled a load of landscaping rock. My before weight was 7,860, with only me, some basic tools, 5th wheel rails and frame brackets, a removable bed liner (on top of the 5th wheel rails) and a full tank.

After I got the camper, I took the truck and camper to a CAT scale. My steer axle was 4,720, drive axle was 5,540 (total 10,260), with a full tank, and some basic tools. There was no water or anything in the holding tanks. The camper only had a few cleaning supplies, fridge, Mach 3 AC and a microwave (no TV, stereo or oven).

Q 3 - Is this 260 lbs of over weight acceptable?

There's almost nowhere I can cut weight, other than removing the 5th wheel rails and frame mounts, microwave, and maybe a sheet of OSB. Kind of perplexed here, as I was hoping it would be near the weight of 1,992 (as per the factory sheet, after adding the microwave).

Based on my figures, I should have been at ~7,860 (truck) + ~1,992 (camper) and maybe around 100-150 lbs in lumber, torklift/fastguns and a few extra tools. That should have been at or just below 10K. I really don't know where the extra 250-300 lbs is coming from on this camper...

Thanks for any advice on these questions.

-Ed

44 Replies

  • After you add propane, water, clothing, tools, cooking gear, food and miscellaneous the rig with weigh another 1000 pounds more.

    To handle the weight, you should consider Rancho shocks and supersprings or equivalent. Tires are a major concern. You need to be sure you have tires that will handle the final weight and you need to be sure they are always at the correct pressure.
  • I'd be more concerned with the rim rating (maximum permissible load) than the tires. You can uprate on load capacity on tires, the rims themselves maybe, maybe not and keep up on driveline maintenance. Hypoid oil and transmission fluid needs to be changed on a routine basis and greasing of the 'U' joints in the driveshaft if you can (I can, mine are greaseable).

    With a long bed camper in a shortbox, the tailgate is a needed accessory and the Cg is going to be farther rearward, putting more weight on the drive axle. I'd want to load the camper (stuff), as far forward as possible.

    You will probably need some suspension enhancements, the rear axle is pretty overloaded so it (rear suspension) will probably squat and need some help. I'm an ait bag person but the choice is yours to make, and a upgraded transmission cooler might be in the cards as well. Automatic transmissions die most often from heat issues and you are already in an arid (hot) climate.

    Things to consider. I had a Lance (previous TC) and it was substantially over the placard weight listed on the back, like 1300 pounds dry. I call the 'advertised weight' on campers a 'fantasy weight'.
  • As long as its not resting on the bed rails I don't worry about it. I do want 3-4 incles of clearance between the truck cab and the cabover section of the camper (frame flex).

    typically you take off the tailgate and put it in the garage.

    campers weigh well over their tagged weight ( which doesn't include options like AC, Propane, Water, Microwave etc).

    Stay under the tire rating per axle. You probably will need something to help with the suspension but maybe not