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Laziebun's avatar
Laziebun
Explorer
Feb 27, 2017

Newbie towing recommendation

Looking to get the family into RV'ing.

Here what I have:
2013 Ford F-150 supercrew Cab 3.5L EcoBoost 3.55 gear ratio. And tow package from factory.
GCWR 15500lbs
GVWR 7200lbs

Trailer Springdale
Length 32'2"
Dry Weight 6380lbs
Hitch 625lbs (assuming that means tongue weight?)

I am planning to get everyone in the truck full tank of gas and go find a scale to get accurate weight of truck. I also have a weight distribution hitch.

Unfortunity this is my first time towing something this size. I have towed dollys, utility trailers here and there. I do plan to drive around for practice and find a large open area to practice some.

20 Replies

  • Big1's avatar
    Big1
    Explorer II
    Yep, Jeremiah said it right there, look at getting some LT tires also. The trailer will add up quick, since I bought mines back in Aug of last year the wife and I are have been buying stuff for it like crazy so the weight can add up quick.


    You have a good towing truck but all truck have it's limits like they said if you can go to the scale and see what kind of weight you have and then start from there.
  • jerem0621 wrote:
    Welcome Laziebun,

    You did a good job giving us a lot of info to start with. Your Truck is a very capable Half ton truck. Are the trailer weights you posted the brochure weights? If so, I would make some assumptions until you actually weigh the truck and trailer.

    1) I would figure 1,200-1500 lbs added to the above trailer weight as you "ready to camp" weight. Also, don't believe yourself when you say you will camp light. Over time your trailer will get heavier. You will eventually buy trailer only items (pots, pans, etc) along with many other things.

    2) your tongue weight right now is less than 10% which is not good for pulling a TT. You need 10-13% tongue weight. So, 13% of 7,500 lbs is going to be about 975 lbs.

    3) figure your trucks available payload. There should be a yellow sticker in your drivers door jamb that should say something along the lines of " the combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed xxxx lbs. you need to make sure you have enough payload to cover your family's weight, the tongue weight, and the weight distribution hitch head....along with anything else in the truck. (This is how people end up with 3/4 or 1ton trucks and realize that the tow rating is essentially useless for a TT and a 1/2 ton combo. You run out of payload way before you run out of tow rating...generally speaking)

    4) make sure your weight distribution hitch bars are rated for at least 1,000 lbs...1,200 would be better. If they are 800 lbs bars, I don't think they are big enough for your application. Make sure the weight distribution hitch is set up and spot on. This is not hard to do yourself...take your time and do this yourself.

    5) depending on what kind of WD hitch you have you may have sway control built in. If you have a standard WD hitch which requires separate sway bars be sure you use two of them. This is my preferred hitch as I like being able to remove the sway control on gravel roads or in icy/slick conditions while retaining my WD abilities.

    6) air your tires up to the Max PSI on the sidewall of the tires for towing purposes. This is subjective but my experience this is helpful in firming up the ride on a half ton while towing a large TT

    7) your mpg will be 7-10 while towing. Probably average around 8 mpg. You will feel the trailer back there. You will get use to it.

    8) if you don't have OEM towing mirrors then ensure you get a good set of towing mirrors. I like the JR products Grand Aero's or the CIPA Slip on mirrors for your specific truck.

    9) buy a power tongue jack if your trailer didn't come with one. Many choices here, Barker and Atwood seem to be the best... all are helpful...for me it turned hitching up into a breeze.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah


    Payload- you're right there is a sticker on my door and it's 123- lbs. just the tongue weight alone will have me pretty much reaching the payload capacity. Unfortunately this TT is a no go. Last thing I want to do is put the family at risk.

    Thanks everyone for your input.
  • Welcome Laziebun,

    You did a good job giving us a lot of info to start with. Your Truck is a very capable Half ton truck. Are the trailer weights you posted the brochure weights? If so, I would make some assumptions until you actually weigh the truck and trailer.

    1) I would figure 1,200-1500 lbs added to the above trailer weight as you "ready to camp" weight. Also, don't believe yourself when you say you will camp light. Over time your trailer will get heavier. You will eventually buy trailer only items (pots, pans, etc) along with many other things.

    2) your tongue weight right now is less than 10% which is not good for pulling a TT. You need 10-13% tongue weight. So, 13% of 7,500 lbs is going to be about 975 lbs.

    3) figure your trucks available payload. There should be a yellow sticker in your drivers door jamb that should say something along the lines of " the combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed xxxx lbs. you need to make sure you have enough payload to cover your family's weight, the tongue weight, and the weight distribution hitch head....along with anything else in the truck. (This is how people end up with 3/4 or 1ton trucks and realize that the tow rating is essentially useless for a TT and a 1/2 ton combo. You run out of payload way before you run out of tow rating...generally speaking)

    4) make sure your weight distribution hitch bars are rated for at least 1,000 lbs...1,200 would be better. If they are 800 lbs bars, I don't think they are big enough for your application. Make sure the weight distribution hitch is set up and spot on. This is not hard to do yourself...take your time and do this yourself.

    5) depending on what kind of WD hitch you have you may have sway control built in. If you have a standard WD hitch which requires separate sway bars be sure you use two of them. This is my preferred hitch as I like being able to remove the sway control on gravel roads or in icy/slick conditions while retaining my WD abilities.

    6) air your tires up to the Max PSI on the sidewall of the tires for towing purposes. This is subjective but my experience this is helpful in firming up the ride on a half ton while towing a large TT

    7) your mpg will be 7-10 while towing. Probably average around 8 mpg. You will feel the trailer back there. You will get use to it.

    8) if you don't have OEM towing mirrors then ensure you get a good set of towing mirrors. I like the JR products Grand Aero's or the CIPA Slip on mirrors for your specific truck.

    9) buy a power tongue jack if your trailer didn't come with one. Many choices here, Barker and Atwood seem to be the best... all are helpful...for me it turned hitching up into a breeze.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • theoldwizard1 wrote:
    Not mentioned but these are ABSOLUTE MUST HAVES

    • Load distribution hitch
    • Electric brake controller


    That is a lot of trailer to tow. Best advice is to keep in UNDER 65 MPH.


    I have both.
  • My GVWR is 7200 and I'm guessing from reading online that my truck weight around 5500lbs.

    Payload ~ 1700lbs (?)

    Or do I have that wrong. Again I'm new at this.
  • Big1's avatar
    Big1
    Explorer II
    Yea, you will be cutting close, probably way over, what is your payload on your truck, that tongue weight will go up after you load it up? Dry weight don't mean nothing you should go by the GVWR of the trailer.
  • Not mentioned but these are ABSOLUTE MUST HAVES

    • Load distribution hitch
    • Electric brake controller


    That is a lot of trailer to tow. Best advice is to keep in UNDER 65 MPH.
  • You're missing the most important piece of information for a half ton, the payload capacity. What does the yellow sticker on the door jam say you have for payload?
  • Yes it is dry weight.

    Even though the manufacture says I can tow 9600lbs?
  • Too much trailer for the truck. Ill bet you have listed the advertised dry weight. Which is basically useless.