Nissan and cummins.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Cummins saved the Dodge truck, let's see what happens here.

If I had a buck for every post that stated "if only toy or nissan made a HD truck , one would be in my driveway"
I would be a hundredaire and toy or nissen would have a sold out production year.
we will now see if it was only hot air.

CKNSLS wrote:

mrkoje wrote:
It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload.

I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.

If RAM can sell all of the Diesels they can produce-there will indeed be a market for this truck. Nissan has always made good trucks-they just never sold in great numbers for other reasons.

Not sure they always made good trucks. The Frontier has been successful on an international scale - and suppose it has in the US as well for the market its in. Maybe the Titan was a good truck on reliablity but it sure wasn't if you're grading on performance. The Titan has been in desperate need of an update for a decade. I don't think it was much of a surprise on how little they sold when the price was the only number that was inline with the Big 3. For example Titans big V8 was/is putting out 6cyl numbers on HP and TQ. The interior was horrible and the ride subpar. In my opinion I wouldn't even call the Titan a competitor in the 1500 series class. That is maybe until now - they might just be onto something. We shall see!

They did under size the axle. But that's got nothing to do with the new truck.

Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.

I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

mrkoje wrote:
It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload.

I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.

If RAM can sell all of the Diesels they can produce-there will indeed be a market for this truck. Nissan has always made good trucks-they just never sold in great numbers for other reasons.

It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload.

I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.

Looks like a cross between a Ram and a F150.

Yeah, sounds like it was or is being shown at the Detroit Auto Show today.

More info here:

AutoBlog - 2016 Nissan Titan XD arrives with diesel V8 power

AutoBlog's Steven J. Ewing wrote:
Feels like this one's been coming soon (or is that #CumminsSoon?), forever. Over a decade since theNissan Titan launched, the Japanese fullsize pickup has finally been given a full redesign, and it looks to be a worthy – and interesting – competitor in the light-duty pickup class.

First and foremost, the truck debuting here in Detroit is the Titan XD – it's not a trim level, but a totally different version of the standard Titan, despite looking the same. The best way to explain the difference is that if the Titan competes with a Silverado 1500, the XD competes with something a step higher, but not a full 2500. Think of it as a Silverado 2000 or something – a step between light and heavy duty. Nissan truly thinks there's a white space in this pickup segment. The company isn't ready to release details on the standard Titan just yet, and the XD with the diesel engine will be the first version to come to market.

The diesel in question is the long-awaited 5.0-liter V8 from Cummins, producing 310 horsepower and 555 pound-feet of torque, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. When properly equipped, the Titan XD can tow up to 12,000 pounds, and has a payload capacity of 2,000 pounds. Nissan has confirmed that gasoline V6 and V8 options will be available on both Titan and Titan XD models, but has not released any details at this time. The 5.0-liter Cummins turbodiesel V8 will only be offered on the XD. Nissan is upgrading its Around View Monitor with features to aid with towing, too.

Shown here as a Crew Cab, the Titan will be offered in King Cab and Single Cab configurations, as well, with three bed lengths (a 6.5-foot bed is seen here). Nissan has also told us that a lower-grade work truck will be available, as well. As the models roll out, the Titan and Titan XD will be offered in several trims, including a rugged-looking Pro-4X model and a new, top-of-the-line Platinum Reserve. All except the Pro-4X can be had with two- or four-wheel drive.

Speaking of looks, we have to say, this is a pretty nice looking truck. Its appearance is fresh and modern, if awfully reminiscent of other trucks in the segment (hard to offer a unique design with that shape, of course). Up front, there are premium elements like available LED headlamps with LED running lamps, and out back, those same modern bulbs are used for the taillamps. Inside, things are pretty cool, with high-quality materials used throughout and, from what we could tell while poking around early pre-production units, a very solid level of fit and finish.

We'll have much, much more information following the Titan's reveal at the Detroit Auto Show today. For now, scroll down to check out Nissan's full press blast.

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