Nissan Armada Tow

jtludwig wrote:

BenK wrote:
Other 'minuses' to that 1433 payload are: 4x4, power seats/windows/locks, AC, ETC

Most SUV's end up at to over their GVWR before hooking up the trailer tongue

Best to actually weigh your TV empty and fully loaded ready to go camping, but
without the trailer hooked up

That is the only way to know where you are in reference to your ratings

Ben that statement is absolutely false. Most SUV's do not end up at or over their GVWR before even hooking up the trailer tongue. For example, look at the 2014 Durango. It has a GVWR of 7200 lbs, and when loaded up with my family and all our gear, our curb weight is 5900 lbs..plenty of payload left over.

Also..your statement about power windows, locks, etc is incorrect.

The easiest way to determine payload (regardless of the sticker) is to just load up the SUV with everything (people, gear, etc) and take it to the scales. Your true remaining payload will be your GVWR - scale weight.

At least you agree with your last paragraph...

Find your TV's GVWR, GCWR, MTWR and 'curb'. Go out and actually weigh
it both empty and fully loaded...as you also recommend

Simple math: GCWR - MTWR = curb. Then look at what your scale weight is

Betcha is is NOT 'curb'.

I used to likewise with everyone else...think that 'curb' was what it
is sitting at the 'curb'...but it's the bare bones model used to derive
the ratings. AKA the stripper model and is the only way they can
do it and stay competitive. Their is a difference with foreign badges,
as they used to (don't know if they continue to do so) actually have
some of the options on board for certification testing

Another simple math: MTWR + your actual scaled weight and it will
be more than GCWR

Why?

Actually don't need to weigh it, as this simple math proves my point:
GCWR - curb = MTWR and GVWR + MTWR >= GCWR...why would that be greater
than GCWR?

PS...they used to actually offer for sale their 'curb' vehicle, AKA stripper model

But no more. Almost nobody orders a 'curb' (AKA stripper) model anymore

Only know of two. My dear Uncle Bill Lechlitner and our moderator Marty