Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel Fuel Mileage

FishOnOne wrote:


I believe if Chrysler stayed out of bankruptcy you would have a cummins V8 or V6 in a 1500 truck. Fiat was the reason the ED got the green light.

On the F150 going diesel I would say they're going the same route as the ED and the baby Duramax for the midsizes to promote improved fuel economy benefits in an effort to meet the 2025 CAFE standards. Having said that I will predict the F150 will have more towing and hauling capacity so fuel mileage may not be the overall top priority with this engine since Ford is on target to meet the new CAFE standards while FCA is having to buy credits from companies like Tesla and Honda since they are not inline to be compliant in time.

I'm not so sure on the FCA front, as FCA has worked with VM Motori in the past as well for Jeep wranglers. However, you may be right about a Cummins V6 as I do recall the DOE testing both, a V8 and V6 motor from Cummins in the late 2000's. Looks like Nissan went with the V8, I just don't know if a Chrysler would had done the V8 or gone with a V6 Cummins. But that's all supposition at this point. Also, I recall Nissan testing some form of ISF motor as well with the DOE from Cummins. Maybe that'll end up in a Frontier?

As for the FCA buying credits bit, it runs much deeper than RAM. I think the "RAM" portion of Chrysler is fine. The issue is that FCA is selling a whole lot of larger cars (Charger, Challenger, 300, etc...) in the US, it's a large part of their sales. The average fuel economy of these larger cars isn't so stellar because of how people opt to purchase them (V8's). Jeep is also making killer sales, but the vehicles there also suffer the same, since a vast majority of those vehicles tend to be gassers and large gassers at that (or just totally un-aerodynamic like the Wrangler). It will be interesting to see how FCA wades through this.

As for the F-150, I think they would go for the fuel economy side of things as well. They certainly have the Chassis to pull it off. Especially since it looks like there's a healthy appetite for those that want better fuel economy and just enough power to handle hauling something bulky, the boat to the lake, or a small RV to the mountain, along with plenty of grunt for daily driving in traffic.