No more full size cars from GM
February 28 2020 GM will shut down the plant that produces the Impala, Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CT-6 and retool the plant to build electric pickups.
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8.1 Van wrote:
cybertruck on 405 s FW, Dec 7th at 11pm. Ford F-150 move out the way. Elon Musk driving.
Pedestrian safety may be an issue with the Cybertruck design whether Musk is driving or someone else. Europe mandates certain designs that help protect a pedestrian when hit:
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/12/07/while-other-countries-mandate-safer-car-designs-for-pedestrians-america-does-nothing/
But many automakers design with pedestrians in mind even without it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehicle_designLynnmor wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
Hardly amounts to much difference 7" longer.
Engine size has nothing to do with it.
A lot of todays vehicles can't fit in a garage from the '60's or 70's.drsteve wrote:
lbrjet wrote:
There are far more cars than trucks/SUV's in my garage at work. Someone still wants them.
People who buy new don't want them. Drive by any dealer and see what's on the lot.
When I take my Honda for service I see lot's of cars. Same with my Toyota. Take my Ford truck in and not many cars. Ford started this and GM jumped on board. Time will tell if it is mistake or not.Dadoffourgirls wrote:
free radical wrote:
colliehauler wrote:
February 28 2020 GM will shut down the plant that produces the Impala, Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CT-6 and retool the plant to build electric pickups.
Better build a Supercharger network first if they want to compete with Tesla.
Stainless steel body wouldnt hurt either,Im tired of undercoating my old Silverado frame every year to keep rust at bay.
After forty years driving Chevys my next truck will be Tesla Cybertruck most likely,their tech is years ahead of anyone.
Then you just keep waiting for Elon to get his truck to you. Hopefully you will be able to insure the vehicle at a reasonable cost, and have replacement parts available.
cybertruck on 405 s FW, Dec 7th at 11pm. Ford F-150 move out the way. Elon Musk driving.
Tesla full size car blowing the doors off a Mustang GTtwodownzero wrote:
The cars they refer to as "full size" was a joke anyway. None of those cars are full size. Mid size at best. Nobody will miss them; the people who wanted a full size car are still driving their 90s Impala, Crown Vic, etc.
More like “the people who can’t afford a newer car are driving their 90s Imps and Crown Vics.”
But I suppose there are a few survivors left that still think “It ain’t a real car unless it has body on frame and velour seats”Lynnmor wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
What I was thinking but didn’t want to say it....
Pretty sure my old 2 door 70 Impala doesn’t give up any “size” to any new full size cars.
Not that smaller is worse, but 6 adults inside and 6 hockey bags in the trunk doesn’t happen anymore.colliehauler wrote:
Are electric sharging stations proprietary? Why is there not a standardized charging stations for all electric vehicles?
Kind of. There are three standards.
- Chademo (Japanese and some Korean manufacturers.
- CCS (everybody else but not Chinese manufactures)
- Tesla Supercharger is the most extensive. Tesla has offered access to their network to whoever wants to contribute to the development of the network. So far no takers. Tesla’s have adapters so they can use non Tesla networks so they have the best coverage BY FAR.
Tesla also makes large sedans. The model S.- The cars they refer to as "full size" was a joke anyway. None of those cars are full size. Mid size at best. Nobody will miss them; the people who wanted a full size car are still driving their 90s Impala, Crown Vic, etc.
Lynnmor wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
Only thing I can think of is that person is comparing height only. More than a few SUV's are definitely higher than a Bonneville. lolNJRVer wrote:
When you look vehicles today compared with what was on the market in the '60's and 70's, todays vehicles are huge.
Growing up we used to think of a Pontiac Bonneville as an absolute monstrosity.
Now park one next to Lexus and the Pontiac looks small in comparison.
:h The Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 7 inches wider with a foot longer wheelbase and an engine more than twice the size.
