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Siletzspey
Oct 04, 2020Explorer
Whenever I Google this topic, it seems companies like Ravelco correctly point out that Fords have been the most popular SELLING trucks for decades, but then cleverly fail to mention that the vast majority of stolen Ford trucks are 2007 and older, and that Ford FOBs since have been much harder to crack.
I do see technical articles mentioning "relay attacks" on the newer FOBs, which based on my cybersecurity work smells of what is called a "man in the middle attack" when using asymmetric ciphers like RSA. While it DOES appear hackers/thieves can buy devices to do a "man in the middle" aka "relay" attack on newer key FOBs, it's not clear it's widely practical, and more importantly that the hacker/thief can actually start the truck after opening the door with the faked FOB signal.
I'm curious if others know factually that 2008+ Ford Trucks are being stolen at alarming rates, of if it's just over-hyped from 2007 and older Ford Trucks being stolen.
And at least on my 2015 F350, and as the auto security experts recommend, you can still manually key in/out without transmitting FOB signals, if you're really worried about someone capturing the FOB signals. The downside is, I don't think the audible alarm arms when you manually lock the doors.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/most-stolen-vehicle-insurance-bureau-canada-ford-f350-1.5383065
--tg
I do see technical articles mentioning "relay attacks" on the newer FOBs, which based on my cybersecurity work smells of what is called a "man in the middle attack" when using asymmetric ciphers like RSA. While it DOES appear hackers/thieves can buy devices to do a "man in the middle" aka "relay" attack on newer key FOBs, it's not clear it's widely practical, and more importantly that the hacker/thief can actually start the truck after opening the door with the faked FOB signal.
I'm curious if others know factually that 2008+ Ford Trucks are being stolen at alarming rates, of if it's just over-hyped from 2007 and older Ford Trucks being stolen.
And at least on my 2015 F350, and as the auto security experts recommend, you can still manually key in/out without transmitting FOB signals, if you're really worried about someone capturing the FOB signals. The downside is, I don't think the audible alarm arms when you manually lock the doors.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/most-stolen-vehicle-insurance-bureau-canada-ford-f350-1.5383065
--tg
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