October 2015 and year sales numbers

blt2ski wrote:
I prefer to look at numbers this way, IS the TOTAL vehicle sold more than last year? if so great! If not, then we are in another potential depression/recession. The total sold between brands is ALWAYS moving about, depending upon who has what discounts, wants to get rid of inventory, who's is newest design, motor out etc.

Yeah I have been driving GM's for 35+ years, no frods or dogdes, If ALL three manufactures are down in sales, that has been a bad sign! one or the other up or down some, overall total is up, that is a GOOD sign!

Marty

To this I would add, was profit made on all those sales ,or were they given away?
Price them low enough and look like a hero ........this year.

ksss wrote:

IdaD wrote:

lawnspecialties wrote:
I am really pleased with both my F350s. I have no vested interest in any of the big three automakers.

Therefore, I couldn't care less about those numbers.

I'm with you - I find automotive brand loyalty baffling. No one brand is ever going to have the best model on the market in a particular class on an ongoing basis. Depending on model cycles brands are going to pull ahead and fall behind as advancements are made. Why anybody would buy one brand for loyalty reasons and snub a better vehicle is beyond me.

The term "better vehicle" is subjective, especially with the current pickup offerings. I run GM trucks, always have. My business identity is a part of that along with the type of heavy equipment I tend to buy. I don't bounce around from OEM to OEM. I establish a relationship with the dealer or dealers and stay there unless I have a compelling reason to change (poor performance or service from the OEM or dealer). I appreciate loyalty from my customers and I return the favor when I am in the customer role.

I have to agree with ksss, I always bought Chevy's, as the dealer was fair to me. The other dealers were a pita! Be them other chev, or ford or equal. Hence why I stuck with Chev's from one dealer. Probably why I bought my IHC from the dealer I did too.

Yeah, some were down maybe 10-20hp vs the newest motor from the other brand, I still got to where I needed to go. The dealer fixed QUICKLY when it broke be it warranty or just use, or abuse from an employee. When one runs a business, this is frankly more important than WHO is best on the day you buy the vehicle.

For ALL of us in general, better to be looking at the general increase in sales numbers for ALL the brands. Why Honda is still on the list is beyond me, as noted, that model is not even sold, or it is OLD stock finally getting sold off. This is the same as, Are you a D or R politically, I prefer neither, American frankly! If all manufactures BUILDING product in NA are improving in total sale numbers, things are good!

marty

only care about my vehicle & models are sold in enough volume and long enough to
have a good supply chain for future parts that are affordable

IdaD wrote:

lawnspecialties wrote:
I am really pleased with both my F350s. I have no vested interest in any of the big three automakers.

Therefore, I couldn't care less about those numbers.

I'm with you - I find automotive brand loyalty baffling. No one brand is ever going to have the best model on the market in a particular class on an ongoing basis. Depending on model cycles brands are going to pull ahead and fall behind as advancements are made. Why anybody would buy one brand for loyalty reasons and snub a better vehicle is beyond me.

The term "better vehicle" is subjective, especially with the current pickup offerings. I run GM trucks, always have. My business identity is a part of that along with the type of heavy equipment I tend to buy. I don't bounce around from OEM to OEM. I establish a relationship with the dealer or dealers and stay there unless I have a compelling reason to change (poor performance or service from the OEM or dealer). I appreciate loyalty from my customers and I return the favor when I am in the customer role.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
I do like the front end change on the 2016 Silverado !! I think that will help them sell even more.

I agree, I like the GMC better tho.

The wife and I drove a '16 Silverado 1500 CC LTZ yesterday. I generally liked the new look, it is different. I like the 8 speed tranny with the 5.3. We ran about 10 miles down a flat section of 65 mph highway and it bounced between 21-23 mpg with 3.42's . I have not seen a '16 GMC yet, look forward to it.

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
I do like the front end change on the 2016 Silverado !! I think that will help them sell even more.

I agree, I like the GMC better tho.

I prefer to look at numbers this way, IS the TOTAL vehicle sold more than last year? if so great! If not, then we are in another potential depression/recession. The total sold between brands is ALWAYS moving about, depending upon who has what discounts, wants to get rid of inventory, who's is newest design, motor out etc.

Yeah I have been driving GM's for 35+ years, no frods or dogdes, If ALL three manufactures are down in sales, that has been a bad sign! one or the other up or down some, overall total is up, that is a GOOD sign!

Marty

SGardiner wrote:
I think the most shocking thing revealed by this table is that someone thinks a Honda Ridgeline is actually a "truck"

It is no longer being produced so I'm not even sure why it's listed. Heard Honda is going to try another kick at the can but really not sure why - it was a failure when it was introduced.

Ford will be back soon with the World Ranger so that should move some sales from the compact truck segment.

I think the most shocking thing revealed by this table is that someone thinks a Honda Ridgeline is actually a "truck"

GM - 767,857 (Don't forget the Colorado/Canyon sales)
Ford - 629,951
I'd say GM outsold Ford by 137,906 pickups. Or had a better year by 18%.
Can I get some of that popcorn please?