Off Road Mashup: ZR2 vs Raptor vs Power Wagon

Civics are good in snow.

On topic, here's a different perspective.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ram/2500/2017/chevrolet-colorado-zr2-vs-ford-f-150-raptor-vs-ram-2500-power-wagon/

Me Again wrote:
My 78 Honda Civic would back up a snowy hill that it could not go up forward. Just saying.

I had one of those myself when I was a kid. Best 2WD vehicle I've ever driven in the snow, not much good for anything else.

Now throw about 4000# in the back of them and repeat the test.

I wouldn't mind a diesel ZR2, as a secondary vehicle of course. Not big enough or capable enough for my truck needs, but perfect for when I don't need that much truck.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I just want to know who would take an almost $70K truck off road? I don't like taking my truck back in the woods on a flat trail lol.

Would like to see Ram put some wider and better tires tires on the Power Wagon along with trim some weight from that pig! Over seven thousand pounds! Holly Hypodermic Bat Man :E

Don

Don't forget the Power Wagon is a 2500 truck so it's going to weigh more and the Goodyears it runs are pretty good. Having said that the Rebel would be a lighter truck and perhaps a better hill climber, but there's literally infinite amount of off road possibility's and not one truck is the best at every off road scenario.

Saw the new ZR2 the other day while the wife and I had a day off together and had to get a part at the dealership. All I can say is wow, what a truck, I think with the diesel or gas Gm hit a home run with this series of trucks, quite impressive. Oh to add while we were there someone was trading in there 2500HD on a Colorado...... I thought that was interesting but circumstances change for everyone time to time.

I think driving ability could have played in a bit on the hill climb success.
They all seemed to drive like a newbies (especially the RAM) but that might be the point.

noteven wrote:

Lessmore wrote:

rjstractor wrote:
I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse.

Good point.

In my limited wheeling experience with Land Cruisers, 4Runners, Jeeps, compact and full size pickups and tubs o'lard like my Dodge - the pickups would sometimes back up a challenging bit they would not climb in go forward. Empty pickups have poor weight distribution and stiff suspensions for off roading.

My 78 Honda Civic would back up a snowy hill that it could not go up forward. Just saying.

Cummins 6.7 in the Power Wagon would break hard parts. Chris

Lessmore wrote:

rjstractor wrote:
I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse.

Good point.

In my limited wheeling experience with Land Cruisers, 4Runners, Jeeps, compact and full size pickups and tubs o'lard like my Dodge - the pickups would sometimes back up a challenging bit they would not climb in go forward. Empty pickups have poor weight distribution and stiff suspensions for off roading.

I still wish Ram would have struck a deal with Cummins to put the 5.0L Cummins in the Power Wagon.