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67avion
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Jun 02, 2015

Old School Belly Bar Replaced by Torklift Talons

Last year my wife and I traveled about the West. In particular Utah, and in particular a spectacular place called Muley Point. We hope to get back there soon. We have memories of the most beautiful views we have ever seen.

And we have memories of an unnerving collision with our Old School Belly Bar and a rock outcropping that nearly turned over the camper, and left our rear tie downs broken. How the front tie downs survived is beyond me.



If you look closely you'll see there is no rear tie down.

I decided then to replace the Belly Bar. It gave entirely too little clearance for these close encounters. It probably took away three critical inches.

I talked to Curt Oetjen of Kamper's Supply in nearby Carterville, Illinois. www.kampersupply.comCurt told me that in his 35 year experience Torklift is the Number One best tie down. He hadn't seen the new Aluminum Talons but he agreed to install them for me. Turns out it was a snap. Taking off the old Belly Bar was far more time. Altogether it was around 2 hours for the entire operation.



He placed the front ones way outside to clear the side of the truck. One concern that he had was if the truck would handle differently from having a solid bar stabilizing both sides. Later when I drove the truck away I didn't notice any issues whatsoever.



Here you can see where the rear tie downs actually wrap around the frame member instead of sticking inside the tube.



But the special payoff according to Curt, second only to ground clearance, is that my truck weighs over a hundred pounds less on the crucial rear axle. It turns out that the new Talons are made from military grade aluminum for both strength and light weight. That Belly Bar was a real monster.

I feel more comfortable knowing that I have more clearance. It adds to the sense of safety and confidence off road. And Off Road is what all of us are about.
  • I visited the factory yesterday and saw a lot of their products and had stable loads put on. I also saw the new glow steps for trailers. I decided against those as while I moved in their parking lot, I towed my trailer with the steps down. At my age, it would have only been a matter of time til I did it with glow steps on the ground, so i passed on those, for now. Great product for those of us still pre-alzheimers.

    I posted some photos of what can happen to those with bed mounted camper tie downs in the stable load thread in this section.

    I am presenting some seminars next month on RVing in Mexico, so i had Torklift give me a sample of a talon tiedown & a fastgun, which I will be recommending to our customers with Truck Campers. No problem at the border, with only 1 instead of 4, plus I don't even have a truck camper.

    Nice looking vintage camper, BTW.
  • 67avion wrote:


    Here you can see where the rear tie downs actually wrap around the frame member instead of sticking inside the tube.



    So that bolts around the frame?? (No drilling?) I might check into that - having an 8' camper on a 6.5' truck bed puts my back tiedowns quite a way ahead of the rear attachment point.

    Thanks for the great pictures!
  • jumbojet wrote:
    I will be waiting. Do you like fried catfish and the best hush puppies money can buy? I know a place.................
    Well, the good news is that my truck camper has now got clearance to make it to the Arkansas eateries that you frequent.
  • 67avion wrote:
    Jumbojet wrote:

    That looks like a nice upgrade. I am waiting to see the aluminum talon tie down system in person!


    Jumbo, you're in luck. We'll be showing the system in Tontitown, Arkansas, early next week. Hope you can be there.


    I will be waiting. Do you like fried catfish and the best hush puppies money can buy? I know a place.................
  • Jumbojet wrote:

    That looks like a nice upgrade. I am waiting to see the aluminum talon tie down system in person!


    Jumbo, you're in luck. We'll be showing the system in Tontitown, Arkansas, early next week. Hope you can be there.
  • That looks like a nice upgrade. I am waiting to see the aluminum talon tie down system in person!
  • I want to get a better towing arrangement than I have now. I'm using a 24" extension for a 20 foot boat as well as my Samurai. To say the least I'm worried about this arrangement, but I was stumped because of the rear tie downs etc. Now, it looks like I'm good to go.
  • I just installed the new aluminum Talons on my truck. The nicest thing is that the rears have been redesigned so they mount up to the truck no matter what hitch you have. In the past the rears were designed "hitch specific", but the new Talons seem to be more universal. They mount more to the truck frame and less to the hitch like the older style did.