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Dodgemahal
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Sep 30, 2019

Our bumpy intro to truck campers and our Bigfoot score

I have been reading for weeks and weeks now. Staying up way to late to try and find the answer to various questions. On most of the online forums. This one seems to be a great place to learn, read and maybe even share a story.
About the 1st of August I convinced my wife why a truck camper could be a really great thing for us to add to our lives. We are close to Glacier, a days drive to Yellowstone, and it would provide a place to stay visiting friends in distant cities without displacing kids or having to put clean sheets on the guest bed.
I started the craigslist search. We looked at 7 almost local campers. They were dirty, had mouse poop on the beds, in cuboards, etc. In general we were not to impressed. We found a camper and the inside was spotless. Super clean and owned by an older couple in their 80's that seemed nice. I did wonder why the slide out was parked in the middle of an ornamental tree in their front yard. Odd I thought. We looked it over and decided it would be the right one.
We transfered it to my dodge dually and headed home. I had never looked at campers before up close. Thats when the fun started. The slide out was having issues. Closer examination with no tree showed the front overhang had sagged on the passenger side. The entire side of the camper had shifted back and now the slide opening frame was in a diamond shape that nothing would correct.
It only got worse. I found the slide had been removed or at least jacked up to shim one end by nearly three inches. The other end the roller was digging into the floor carving a gross valley in the underside of the floor. I started loosing sleep. We wasted 7 grand on a pile of repairs. In did not have time for another project. I have a bad habit of buying almost functional older jeeps and thinking I will live to be old enough to fix them all. Ugh... I started in on the repairs. I plated the underside of the floor with 1/8 aluminum to provide a smooth surface for the rollers. I started reading. And reading some more. Every night. I discovered all campers have issues. Some more than others. I was now completely soured on this camper and my really bad uneducated purchase. The more I read the worse I felt. I read more each night. How to inspect a camper, which campers had issues. I kept seeing bigfoot's were pretty fancy and most did not have to many issues. Some did but they were top notch in general. I finish the repairs on our 7 thousand dollar mistake and put it back on CL for a fraction of what we paid. Less than 30 days after we bought it. I had one person look. I showed them everything I had found. I did not tell him how much I paid. The couple bought it and wanted to use it for a place to stay at the mother in laws and that was it. It was cheap and did not leak.
Now what? I went through each brand reading every day. I started looking at Bigfoot's and was stunned by how much people wanted. There were only two near us. A beater late 90's one and a 2018 that was a thousand less than new. Come on really... I took a look up and down the Seattle corridor. Holy smokes there were 8 of them. Three 9 footers which is what we though would be good for weight and towing a trailer. And several 10 footers. And the prices were way lower than in the Idaho/Montana area. With 8 print outs we headed west. The one we wanted most was a 9.4 2500 series. It had the rear dinette and had the best view to offer. It had been frozen and had to have the hot water tank welded and it had been done and repaired. Pretty convinced the rest of the plumbing system had suffered from the freeze, we took a look at a second choice, a 2005 9.6 south of Seattle. It was like new inside. Stunning really. All the tags, manuals, every receipt, a beautiful custom rear porch with retractable steps, stainless fast guns, rubber bed mat, several great options like the electrical system disconnect, fantastic fans, outdoor shower, etc. I put my new education to work and looked at everything. I looked at my wife to see what she thought. Talk about a huge smile and a nod. We negotiated the price down 500 bucks, shoke hands and loaded it up on the dodge. It towed just great. It barely leans. My truck springs did not even come close to touching the overloads. My wife and I are super happy with it. We spent the first night in it in the heart of Seattle at a friends house so we could get a fresh start home the next day. What an active place. Now I know why I live deep in the woods with no neighbors. We arrived home to our peaceful spot in the Idaho panhandle. We slept in it again in the front yard.
We have camped in it already. I have added a touch flow faucet with a nice 3M carbon block water filter, bigger batteries, added a solar panel that transfers to our old 78 cabin cruiser boat or the camper, and put all LED bulbs in everywhere. There is a coleman polar cub mach 8 in the box waiting to get installed next spring. We already have a honda eu2000 sitting here. I have some AC install questions, but that is for later.
We love this camper. It was a painfully expensive experience getting into it with the first one, but we know adventures are ahead of us. We feel we did finally find the right one. With 4 to 6 feet of snow here every year, now we have to wait till March to get back out in it. The seller called last night. We talked for over an hour. I told him what I had installed and what I had plans for. Soon we will be back at it, seeing incredible sites, visiting good friends. It's all waiting for us. We need to get out and enjoy life. I believe we have just found a way. :)

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  • I wondered if the question of what the brand was on the first one would come up. I did not mention it so I would not offend anyone that had one. I am confident it is a good camper. The one we bought just had the issues it did. It was a 2001 Fleetwood Elkhorn. The slide offered a ton of room. But I feel it had to much slide with to much on it, refer, seating, storage etc. I think the fact that the whole side of the camper was all slide and not enough wall or structural support at the forward end above the jack to support a heavy overhead. Or the compression at the bottom of the overhead pushing on the door frame of the slide. It pushed it back probably an inch and a half. Eventually we decided to nix any slides to eliminate the weight, potential leaks, and mechanical issues like we found. In good shape and functioning as intended, slides are really pretty cool. Going from a roomy slide to no slide was a minor adjustment but very doable for us.

    Regarding the AC install. I have small scaffolding I bought to paint the roof of a Jeep wagoneer I just restored. I could not paint the roof well without it. At least it will get another use now. I already brought a neighbor over to scope out the lifting of the unit up on to a moving blanket. But here was my issue. Camping in it on our first run, I put a pillow over the vent to see what the loss of natural light would do. Suddenly we were sitting in a dark cave. Well shoot, AC units are supposed to go in roof vent locations and we did not want to loose the natural light it offered. Sure I could put another light in, but what about mounting the AC unit rearward of the vent opening? That generated more reading. Was their a structural member behind that opening? I did not want to cut it if there was. I contacted Bigfoot and they sent me a drawing PDF file of the roof layout for a 2005. And using a stud finder (I learned about that here) I was able to find the optional skylight framing and the optional vent framing 6 inches forward of our existing vent. Our bigfoot has a center 14x14 vent, and a fantastic fan over the bed. Standing on the roof with just the right light, I could see the shadow of the middle vent framing in the roof. I could not see the skylight framing but was able to find it easily with the stud finder. So putting the AC behind the existing vent would involve cutting the forward end of the skylight framing out. The polar cub has about 6 inches of unit forward of the opening it needs. It would be close to the vent and hopefully not splash rain in if the vent was open a tad. So cutting a new hole would involve framing in a new opening for strength and resistance to the compression of the AC mount inside and out. I was considering white or red Oak as I have some here. Inside the camper there is just enough room for the grill and or control panel. It would be close to the bathroom wall corner. But still be a non interference fit. I have searched high and low for a reason to not do this custom install. At first I was hesitant. Now seeing the drawing and working this through, I am hoping it is still a go. Am I making a mistake?
    I will try to post the drawing. Maybe I need more posts to be allowed, but I will try.
    I had planned on changing out the door frosted glass window for a smoked glass with integrated shade. I explained to my wife we will have to open the screen door to open or close the window or shade. Not a big deal to us.
    Thanks for all the replies and info. Thats great.

    I need to do some work to post the drawing. I will try this evening when I have more time.
  • 2005 9.6 south of Seattle. It was like new inside. Stunning really. All the tags, manuals, every receipt, a beautiful custom rear porch with retractable steps, stainless fast guns, rubber bed mat, several great options like the electrical system disconnect, fantastic fans, outdoor shower, etc


    Good find..There out there,it just takes time and patience to find them..

    Mine was a CL item in Montana..I asked for extra pictures of certain things and they were happy to do it..After that,we were on the road with the back seat full of camping stuff/generator/food etc just incase it was as described.It was and a quick trip to Missoula Walmart to finish off what we wanted and a great trip home camping all the way on the river.

    My truck the same way,a trip to Kennewick WA and it was a deal,off of Craigs List..

    Congrats and enjoy..Bigfoot just may be my next TC.
  • That's how we learn!

    I purposely buy distressed campers, but I know the issues and know if I can fix them or not, so I have similar stories, just from a good perspective. Campers in general are so junky and poorly built that no matter how much you fix them they immediately start to fall apart again.. unless a skilled renno guy does the fix.

    You did good to buy the fiberglass TC, those are golden, and whatever issues you have you should still have a solid shell. The sheet metal/wood exterior of most campers is their ultimate undoing.
    And I bet you know why fiberglass foamcore construction models sell used for such high prices.

    I have a fiberglass TC now and do not plan to sell it, but if I do will ask for a premium price, and probably get it. Mine is much better than when if rolled out of the factory, so the issues have been fixed and fixed well.

    If you need advice on AC many here can help. I put a Cub 9,200 on mine so my 2200 watt gen would work, it cools the cabin very fast even on 95 degree days in direct sunlight. You did good there.

    Your question #1 is, how to get it on the roof. Use an extension ladder if you have one. Park next to a hill, or lower the TC as low as possible, and slide the AC on a board using the ladder as a ramp, slide it as close to the hole as possible. Use moving blanket to protect the camper from the ladder, and be careful to not let AC fall off.
    The rest of the install is easy. Wiring > green wire to green wire, white to white, black to black using wire nuts. Your cub will have indicator marks for how much to tighten down on the gasket, so its all easy after u get it on the roof.
  • Sorry to read this but I had a similar experience.

    My first camper was a 9' Skyline Weekender with just about everything I wanted including electric jacks. It was for 8' beds and was reasonably priced.

    The second year I had it the cab overhead started to sag and when I opened it up there was massive wood rot, so I bought another used camper.

    From my previous experience I was able to find a lot nicer older camper. Put quite a bit of work into it and I have ended up with exactly what I always wanted.

    Glad you found a really nice camper. They are a lot of fun.
  • Dodgemahal wrote:
    I did wonder why the slide out was parked in the middle of an ornamental tree in their front yard. Odd I thought.


    You learn about the ways sellers hide problems in a hurry. When we were looking for our Sahara, we found one close by, but the seller didn't want me to see it in the daylight. He kept coming up with excuses why Saturday daytime was no good. We passed.

    The last rig, the driver wouldn't let me drive it. I found out after I bought it (and a white knuckle ride down a 13% grade) that only the front brakes were working.

    I now do inspections and I've found several more. Any rig the seller won't put water into gets a don't buy or a recommendation of a $5000 hold-back.

    Glad you found your camper. Sounds like you're both heading for some great adventures.
  • Those kind of mistakes can be fixed with money, glad everything turned out very good for you guys. Would you mind saying what brand of camper was the first one with the slide issue.