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Rrliljedahl
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Nov 18, 2013

Our journey to pick truck camper, a question

We have made our camper selection. It has been a long journey for us to come to the decision.

Original priorities were
Pop-up
Flatbed
Passenger side entry
Rear dinette seating
North South sleeping
At least 30 gallons of freshwater
Ability to have canoe and solar on the roof.
Ability to be lived in off the truck

We were in Colorado planning on visiting the Outfitter Camper factory until we were informed that they had no campers in production. Upon further enquiry with others in the camping industry, I heard that Outfitter was having financial issues. We chose to pass on an Outfitter camper.

While in Colorado, we visited the Hallmark Camper factory and were very impressed with the quality and available options of their pop-ups. The roof lift is electric and can take up to 400 pounds. They did quote us a price for a custom camper (they only occasionally build a flatbed side entry) but is was over twice what they normally charge for their standard slide in camper.

We then drove up to the Four Wheel Camper dealer in Jackson Hole Wyoming and who loaned us his new Four Wheel Fleet Ute which is a flatbed side entry for the weekend. Quite spacious and innovative floor plan. Unfortunately, the pop-up roof is manual and my wife had great difficulty lifting it. It has to have a platform support if taken off the truck and lived in.

We visited the Alaskan Camper factory which has an electric roof lift that could handle the solar and canoe. We left having concerns about the flip up sides on the pop-up roof. It would appear that insects and moisture could enter easily.

XP camper presently can not be used when off of the truck. Mark did discuss with me trying to modify the support system so that it can be lived in off of the truck. We decided to pass because of the cost and no North South sleeping arrangement.

My wife also visited the Northstar factory and liked the quality. However the pop-up roof has a hand crank lifting system with a weight limitation of only 100 lbs in the roof. Rex at Northstar also showed my wife their hard side campers which she liked.

After much more soul searching and revisiting our priorities, we have put a hearty deposit down on a

Northstar Escape Pod 900SD
Hard side
Flatbed
Passenger side entry
North South sleeping
9 x 7 Ft floor plan
Rear dinette
2000 dry weight
Northstar builds side entry campers in hardside and pop-up for the overseas market and this camper is used off road in Australia




http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hgdu2xbyc8o&feature=youtube_gdata_player&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dhgdu2xbyc8o%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player




We will have 40 gallons of freshwater
300 watts of solar on the roof
Roof rack for the canoe
Dual AGM batteries
Camper will be built in March.

My present plan is to put this on a yet to be purchased 1 ton, diesel, long bed truck.

FIRST QUESTION IS
Wife does not want scissor steps for camper access. Does anybody have thoughts on other options?

I found this flip up stairs on an Australia camper but have as of yet gotten no additional information. Has anyone done this here in the US.
http://www.freedomoffroad.com.au/product/7/northstar_trackmaster_9/photo_gallery

XP Camper has a pull out stairs that stores within the flatbed.

http://www.xpcamper.com/features.html

Presently, you have to buy their flatbed to get the steps but at a cost of $12,000. The flatbed does have a 3 point suspension, lockable storage rear bumper, rear lights, 4 lockable under flatbed storage drawers and a long pull out rear drawer. Does anyone know of a source for this pull out stairs that stores within the flatbed?

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  • Outfitter’s in trouble? News to us! Apparently we need to get the story straight! We’re sorry if you misunderstood when you spoke with us that we don’t have any campers in production. At that point, we just did not have a Juno in production, or in the showroom. Since we build our campers to order, we generally only keep Caribou Lites on the lot.

    We’re also sorry that you spoke with someone in the “camping industry” that misled you into thinking we are in financial troubles. Our direct competitor is often less than honest and tends to mislead customers with not only our situation, but their ability as a manufacturer as well. Hopefully one day people will understand they should take anything our competitor says with a grain of salt, as they have no factual information in their report of our standing. We’ve had an amazing year, and continue to lead in innovation with our competitors on our tail trying to keep up.
    We hope you’re happy with your Northstar, and are sorry you missed out on visiting us and hearing what we have to offer you. Good luck in your camping adventures.
  • Mello Mike wrote:
    Rrliljedahl wrote:
    Mello Mike
    She does not like the idea of picking up the scissor steps to take them off, finding a place to store them and then picking them up to put them back on every time she wants in the camper while traveling. She also thinks that they heavy, dirty and can pinch your fingers.

    Ron


    I know what you mean, but we never remove our Glowsteps. We travel with them in the up and contracted position. I know Torklift doesn't recommend it but we haven't had any issues for the two years we've owned ours. If you click on my blog link and look at the title pic you'll see how we travel. This probably won't work for your side entry, though.


    But it would be difficult to have those steps hanging off the side of his rig. He is already going to be right at 8' wide. It would also seem a good way to ripe the steps off the side.

    A suggestion since you don't have the flatbed built yet. Could you raise the flatbed another 4" and add a compartment side to side right at the door and have a set of slide out steps made to fit into it like the Snow River campers use to have built right into the camper. They would be mounted in the compartment so just slide them out and they would be ready to be used. This would also give you a small 4" deep storage compartments under the camper for the rest of the camper.

    ON EDIT: I just looked at links you posted and I see that there is one that has the steps slide out of the bed like I was thinking :S
  • Rrliljedahl wrote:
    Mello Mike
    She does not like the idea of picking up the scissor steps to take them off, finding a place to store them and then picking them up to put them back on every time she wants in the camper while traveling. She also thinks that they heavy, dirty and can pinch your fingers.

    Ron


    I know what you mean, but we never remove our Glowsteps. We travel with them in the up and contracted position. I know Torklift doesn't recommend it but we haven't had any issues for the two years we've owned ours. If you click on my blog link and look at the title pic you'll see how we travel. This probably won't work for your side entry, though.
  • Congrats on the Northstar!!! You won't be disappointed!!!
  • Mello Mike
    She does not like the idea of picking up the scissor steps to take them off, finding a place to store them and then picking them up to put them back on every time she wants in the camper while traveling. She also thinks that they heavy, dirty and can pinch your fingers.

    My wife saw the Northstar Arrow 8.5 and like it. In the end we did not pick it because we find the flat bed side entry with rear dinette to be the most appealing floor plan because of the spaciousness. No "butt to butt shuffle" when passing.

    Ron
  • Great choice going with Northstar. Great folks and terrific quality. We are seriously looking at a Northstar Arrow 8.5 U.

    As for the scissor steps, I know you said your wife doesn't like them, but do you know Torklift makes a removable handrail called the Glowguide for them?

    Torklift Glowguide