We were about 500lbs over our 11.200 GVWR with the camper and no tow or flat towing the jeep with the 2000 F350. Add the horse trailer and we were 1000 lbs over. It handled very well with DIY stableloads the only mod. With the 2015 we are 1800 lbs under our 14,000lb GVWR while towing horse trailer or putting the jeep up on a trailer.