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Jan 07, 2018

poor frame design on travel trailer

On our Crossroads Z1 252BH (year 2016), the a-frame/coupler is mounted underneath the main frame rails of the trailer, rather than butted up to the main frame rails...this configuration results in the...
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Old-Biscuit wrote:
With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'



Saw that and tight away thought of Lippert components.

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What this causes is that the rig bottoms out on even mild bumps and inclines...the w/d bars scrape, the chains hit the roadway (causing the breakaway cable intertwined with the safety chain to scrape), and the umbilical scrapes...so far I've had to replace the umbilical and the breakaway once, and they both again need replacement...at some point I'll need to replace the w/d bars...

This issue never crossed my mind when I selected this unit...should've realized the issue before purchase...

Want to take a long road trip to the West this summer, but may actually not go unless I trade this unit...went to Big Bend last summer and even that amount of 'up the hill/down the hill' had everything bottoming out a lot.

Just passing this on for what it's worth"},"Conversation:conversation:2796383":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2796383","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2796383"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-01-15T23:45:26.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2018-01-15T23:45:26.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":46,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2796383":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2796383","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2796383_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2796383_1","lastEditTime":"2018-01-07T11:41:59.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2796388":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2796388","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2796383"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:130324"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2796388,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: poor frame design on travel trailer","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2796388"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2796383"},"body":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'



Saw that and tight away thought of Lippert components.","body@stringLength":"277","rawBody":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
With that type of A-frame/trailer frame I would be more concerned with 'failure'



Saw that and tight away thought of Lippert 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