Just traded a 2016 Crossroads Zinger Z1 252BH for the TT in the signature...I didn't realize until after the Crossroads purchase that it has a poor frame design...instead of the hitch coupler coming straight out of the trailer frame rails, the coupler is underhung from the frame...the only advantage I can see is it makes it easier to step over the hitch when hooked up...the big DISadvantage is that it sits so low that there's only about six inches or less of clearance between the bottom of the hitch and the roadway...w/d bars scrape on every intersection 'dip', every gas-station entrance with an incline, etc....that's a big reason I decided to ditch the Crossroads...something to be aware of when looking at units------Interesting...I just looked at the current Zinger line, and it appears they've changed to a 'straight from the frame' coupler rather than the previous underhung design...guess I'm not the only one who saw this as an issue

Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard. I've had both and prefer the latter.I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.

ScottG wrote:Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard. I've had both and prefer the latter.I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.That's the way my TH TT are, under the frame. I believe it's stronger as well. The TH sits above the wheels (no wheel well) so hight is not a issue.

My Coachmen is made that way too, I assumed it was because the frame sits high so the flat floor slide will clear the tires. The A frame is not unusually low, no issues with hitch ground clearance.

ScottG wrote:Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard. I've had both and prefer the latter.I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.I dont see any of Northwoods trailers with the A frame under the main frame. Nor on Outdoors RV. Both run the A frsme thru a front frame member. You can see it in the ORV frame video on their site.

I feel like not everyone is talking about the same thing. This thread needs pictures!

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ScottG
Nomad
Jan 28, 2019
Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard.
I've had both and prefer the latter.
I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.

Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.
colliehauler
Explorer III
Jan 28, 2019
ScottG wrote:
Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard.
I've had both and prefer the latter.
I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.

Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.
That's the way my TH TT are, under the frame. I believe it's stronger as well. The TH sits above the wheels (no wheel well) so hight is not a issue.
drsteve
Explorer
Jan 28, 2019
My Coachmen is made that way too, I assumed it was because the frame sits high so the flat floor slide will clear the tires. The A frame is not unusually low, no issues with hitch ground clearance.
goducks10
Explorer
Jan 28, 2019
ScottG wrote:
Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard.
I've had both and prefer the latter.
I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.

Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.

I dont see any of Northwoods trailers with the A frame under the main frame. Nor on Outdoors RV. Both run the A frsme thru a front frame member. You can see it in the ORV frame video on their site.
camperdave
Explorer
Jan 28, 2019
I feel like not everyone is talking about the same thing. This thread needs pictures!
Huntindog
Explorer
Jan 28, 2019
Usually such units have axles that are under the springs. Units where the a frame goes thru, have axles over the springs... It it is done this way, they will be about the same in ground clearance.

It sounds like your TT had a mismatch. Maybe they got a good deal that way.
jolvi
Explorer
Jan 28, 2019
Believe he is talking about Norco Nextgen Frame.
deltabravo
Nomad
Jan 29, 2019
goducks10 wrote:
ScottG wrote:
Personally, I think the design of being under the frame is much stronger and less likely to bend if the hitch hits the ground hard.
I've had both and prefer the latter.
I can understand it being too low for some trucks though.

Arctic Fox with it's "Off road rated frame" alway puts it under.

I dont see any of Northwoods trailers with the A frame under the main frame. Nor on Outdoors RV. Both run the A frsme thru a front frame member. You can see it in the ORV frame video on their site.

DITTO.

I have never seen an under the main frame "A-frame" on any Northwood or ORV unit. I've owned 3 Northwood TTs (a 2003 DF, and 2016 Nash and currently a 2015 Nash), my parents have owned 3, a friend owns one currently, and another friend owned a 2000 22H.... all had the A Frame connected directly inline with the main frame.

I did RV transport for Northwood for a handful of units and never saw an A-frame under the main frame. I kind of hated transporting their units because they sat so tall.
trailer_newbe
Explorer II
Jan 29, 2019
My neighbors 2016 Sonoma 28RK has the A-Frame hitch assembly welded under the trailer frame. My Whitehawk 28RL is welded into the trailer frame at the same level. Both trailers have the axel below the springs. He tows his with a 2500 RAM (2016) 6.4 gas 4x4. I tow mine with a 2500 RAM (2018) 6.7 Cummins. His hitch is lower be has never had an issue with hitting the road. I dont know which construction is better.
dodge_guy
Explorer II
Jan 29, 2019
My current TT has the Aframe under the main frame rails. This is a much stronger design than the Aframe that comes straight out from under the trailer. My TT has an 11k lb GVWR which is why it has that design. Our previous TT had a 7k lb GVWR and had the A frame that came out from the front of the trailer. I think the difference is how the trailer frame and suspension is designed. Some trailers sit higher and need the lower mounted Aframe. Others sit lower and don’t require that low mount Aframe.

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