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- LarryJMExplorer II
mosseater wrote:
Larry,
You remember last time all the trouble you got in by speaking the truth? Better be careful, some folks don't like the truth.
I realize that, but for the benefit of those that might be misled I sometimes think the effort is worth the trouble.
OH, and another note, if you don't chamfer the hole where the grease comes out at the seal in the rear, you stand a good chance of nicking the seal lip when you put the drum back on. Ask me how I know. A little fine emery cloth goes a long way.
WOW never considered that and THANKS I'll try and remember that for the next service. I just did my bearings and I broke one adjusting spring and ruined a set of shoes and drum and for only $60/wheel I upgraded to the self adjusting brakes by buying the complete assembly ... backing plate, shoes, magnet, all new hardware at my local RV Dealer.
Larry - mosseaterExplorer IILarry,
You remember last time all the trouble you got in by speaking the truth? Better be careful, some folks don't like the truth.
OH, and another note, if you don't chamfer the hole where the grease comes out at the seal in the rear, you stand a good chance of nicking the seal lip when you put the drum back on. Ask me how I know. A little fine emery cloth goes a long way. - HuntindogExplorer
AH64ID wrote:
Boat trailer bearings are tapered roller bearings. Just like our TT bearings.. I bet some of them are even the same part numbers.
Check out the Timken website on over greasing. I'll take Timken's word as not being a myth, they do know a thing or two about bearings.
If you look at the inside of a removed hub it pretty easy to see how it slings outward. If you have ever pulled a partially full hub, i.e. properly servied, it's also aparant.
Boat trailer bearing buddies work differently, and have a habit of slinging extra grease.
Bearing buddys are just a way of keeping the water out of the bearings. Other than that, they are the same. - MFLNomad III have had 3 trailers with EZ-lubes, and have never been afraid to use them, nor have I had problems arise from using them.
If you have the proper seals installed, use the right grease, and follow the instructions, they can serve you well. I also like to grease the EZs when the bearings are warm.
You will most certainly use more grease, than a hand pack. The price of good grease is pretty small, when taking into account the cost of RVing.
I have pulled a hub to check for other possible issues, and cleaned/checked bearings. In this case, I use my bearing packer before reassembly. I have checked the bearing temps, on the same side, one set hand packed, the other EZ-lubed. The hand packed seem to run 15-20 degrees cooler.
It just makes sense that a hub filled with grease, will dissipate heat slower than an empty hub, with well greased bearings. However, 15-20 degrees, is just a little warmer, not overheated bearings. JMO
Jerry - seaeagle2ExplorerAs a newbie tt owner, but a 20 year trailer boat owner launching almost exclusively in saltwater, I can tell you my personal experience was that spindle lube axles worked better than the bearing buddies for me. I actually filled that void between the bearings with a big gob of grease after I had manually packed the bearings, that way when I shot some grease into the zerk, the old nasty grease would come out the front, keeping in mind these are bearing that get submerged everytime the boat is launched. In 10 years with that trailer I never had a bearing failure.....
- SprinklerManExplorerMy trailer has them ,I bought it uses , the bearings were greased extreemely well , as were the brakes and brake drums , I wont use them I just do it the old fashion way .
- LarryJMExplorer II
AH64ID wrote:
Check out the Timken website on over greasing. I'll take Timken's word as not being a myth, they do know a thing or two about bearings.
If you look at the inside of a removed hub it pretty easy to see how it slings outward. If you have ever pulled a partially full hub, i.e. properly servied, it's also aparant.
Boat trailer bearing buddies work differently, and have a habit of slinging extra grease.
Unfortunately the Timken website in their FAQs Timken FAQs specifically state:
Always follow original equipment manufacturers’ recommendations regarding grease purging and correct replenishment amounts
so Dexter's information and directions trump anything Timken might say to the contrary.
CHECKMATE:p:B
Larry - 4aSongExplorer
Huntindog wrote:
BB_TX wrote:
X2 on the myth. If it were true, then how come all the boat trailers with bearing Buddys don't have the over heating issue?AH64ID wrote:
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Where did you find info stating to rotate? My manual says no rotation needed.
Also, why do you think the cavity must be 100% full? That is considered overpacked and NOT what you want. There has to be a way for heat to dissipate.
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Look at Dexter web site EZ Lube instruction manual and the above link to the Dexter video for EZ Lube greasing instructions and you will clearly see it says to rotate the wheel while pumping grease.
And the cavity must be filled for grease to be pushed out the front bearing. Watch the Dexter video of the process. As far as overheating due to being full, it does not happen. I have towed mine thru Texas/NM summer heat of 105+ and the hubs do not get hot. Myth.
Agree that it uses a lot of grease.
X3
Excellent point, why do boat trailers with bearing buddy's don't have the over heating issue? - coolbreeze01ExplorerOver 20 years, 4 trailers with ez lubes, zero bearing or brake replacement. Not an expert, just my experience.
- AH64IDExplorerCheck out the Timken website on over greasing. I'll take Timken's word as not being a myth, they do know a thing or two about bearings.
If you look at the inside of a removed hub it pretty easy to see how it slings outward. If you have ever pulled a partially full hub, i.e. properly servied, it's also aparant.
Boat trailer bearing buddies work differently, and have a habit of slinging extra grease.
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