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jnoflane2
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Feb 03, 2021

Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes

Everyone knows that the Ram 1500 has very low GVWR. Well I would go a step further after towing with it for four years, when close to the maximum, it is under-sprung and sometimes dangerous.

I did end up adding air bags, but simply wanted a more stable platform, and I am NOT buying a 3/4 or 1 ton that rides rough when empty. I should also say that I have no intentions to exceed the maximum allowed by Ram.... I just want more firmness and stability.

So...... I added HD Progressive Springs and the Air Lift 1000HD.

Here is what our rig normally looks like when leaving for a camping trip.





Here are the pics of what I did.......

The pic of the truck is a little dark and hard to see, but the Billstein's up front raise the truck 1.8" and the TTC-1223VT Springs raise the rear 2". Those are 34's on those 20" rims.

Can't wait to hit the road on our next camping trip. Since I have added the necessary bits and pieces to our camper to make it "Four Seasons", we will take it up to the mountains a couple of times in February and March, as a base camp for a long weekend of skiing.










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  • shelbyfv's avatar
    shelbyfv
    Explorer
    Feb 07, 2021
    pitch wrote:
    God Bless ya dawg! Your selfless acts of valor and speaking truth against internet doctorates have save thousands of families and their victims from flaming RV's flying off of cliffs into bus loads of blind nuns

    Bless you!
    FIFY;)
  • pitch's avatar
    pitch
    Explorer II
    Feb 07, 2021
    God Bless ya dawg! Your selfless acts of valor and speaking truth against internet doctorates have saved thousands of families and their victims from flaming RV's flying off of cliffs into bus loads of blind nuns

    Bless you!
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Feb 06, 2021
    ^Bit there’s no bad info, no magical light duty $.50 seal that makes the truck lighter duty.
    None of that (within reason).
    But that’s the difference between those that understand and those that refuse to understand.
    It’s a proliferation of paranoia or something on this forum.
    Heck the new thread about the guy going to trade up his F150 to 3/4ton diesel to pull his 8k TT around, almost immediately get like 3 different posts about “check the payload on the new truck”, “you should get a 3500 so you’re not overloaded”, etc. And all he was doing was asking if there were any things in particular to look out for with that model of truck. Like reliability stuff. It was already a given that the new truck is more than capable and frankly 1 size larger than necessary.

    Given “most” members here are at least old enough to sign up for AARP, at what point in your lives did all of a sudden, newer, more capable trucks become less capable in your minds?
    Was it the advent of the internet or some other phenomena?
  • Huntindog's avatar
    Huntindog
    Explorer
    Feb 05, 2021
    Grit dog wrote:
    Some of y'all cant just say "Looks nice, have a good day" and move on, can ya?

    My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?
    Yes. It is because I deal in facts.... Not the way I would prefer they be. The way they are.

    And having been here a really long time, I know that letting some bad info go unchallenged will result in some newbie reading it and making a mistake. I of course realize that their are different opinions on everything.... But being quiet, or worse saying "Looks good have a nice day" is not the answer.
    At least when something is challenged, then the newbie may do some more research before making up his/her mind.
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Feb 05, 2021
    MFL wrote:
    Grit dog wrote:
    Some of y'all cant just say "Looks nice, have a good day" and move on, can ya?

    My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?


    Don't know if it was all that BRIGHT BLUE, that got your panties in a wad. I can't look at it long enough to read much of it. Makes my cataracts throb!

    Jerry


    Nothin's in a wad (how d0 you know I wear my wife's underwear though?...).
    It's just discouraging to see the same drivel every day. Doesn't matter to a poster like the OP here, because he has a head on his shoulders and obviously understands what he's doing, but the mass proliferation of towing and payload paranoia makes me think some of these folks are sponsored by the UAW, to help keep them in business by getting people to upgrade their vehicles unnecessarily and often!

    Just trying to keep it real for the folks who are actually looking for knowledge and not some party line cr@p from people who are exspurts because they bought a camper trailer!
  • mtofell1's avatar
    mtofell1
    Explorer
    Feb 05, 2021
    BenK wrote:
    Curious how folks know the OP is not over/under his TV’s ratings...


    Because dirt bikes aren't made of foam :)
  • MFL's avatar
    MFL
    Nomad II
    Feb 05, 2021
    Grit dog wrote:
    Some of y'all cant just say "Looks nice, have a good day" and move on, can ya?

    My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?


    Don't know if it was all that BRIGHT BLUE, that got your panties in a wad. I can't look at it long enough to read much of it. Makes my cataracts throb!

    Jerry
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Feb 05, 2021
    And the OP isn't "cutting anything close" on the truck with that dinky @ss camper.
    I'm more amazed everyday, although should expect it here, that someone would try to overanalyze the OP's winter prep scheme (especially with the OP clearly exuding his knowledge and skills, not some "what can I tow" newby question), not only from a winter prep standpoint, but to then wrap it back into a weight discussion!

    My buddy, thanks to his, umm, princess wife, ended up with a little baby Airstream and he's been relegated to their only personal vehicle being a Volvo wanna be SUV (poor guy, different story).
    Similar size and weight to the OP's camper.
    I've rode with him. Camper plopped on a hitch on the back of the Volvo, no wdh, and down the road they go. Handles well, stops fine with the remote add on cellphone trailer brakes. Heck, it doesn't even sag too much. It might all loaded up with everything but the kitchen sink for the princess and the kids though.
    Point is, it's half the tow rig that a newer Ram 1500 is and it's JUST FINE.
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Feb 05, 2021
    Some of y'all cant just say "Looks nice, have a good day" and move on, can ya?

    My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
    Explorer III
    Feb 05, 2021
    It's been over 12 hours so I will ask again, what load range are your tires.

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I did end up adding air bags, but simply wanted a more stable platform, and I am NOT buying a 3/4 or 1 ton that rides rough when empty. I should also say that I have no intentions to exceed the maximum allowed by Ram.... I just want more firmness and stability.

So...... I added HD Progressive Springs and the Air Lift 1000HD.

Here is what our rig normally looks like when leaving for a camping trip.





Here are the pics of what I did.......

The pic of the truck is a little dark and hard to see, but the Billstein's up front raise the truck 1.8\" and the TTC-1223VT Springs raise the rear 2\". Those are 34's on those 20\" rims.

Can't wait to hit the road on our next camping trip. Since I have added the necessary bits and pieces to our camper to make it \"Four Seasons\", we will take it up to the mountains a couple of times in February and March, as a base camp for a long weekend of skiing.










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I did end up adding air bags, but simply wanted a more stable platform, and I am NOT buying a 3/4 or 1 ton that rides rough when empty. I should also say that I have no intentions to exceed the maximum allowed by Ram.... I just want more firmness and stability.

So...... I added HD Progressive Springs and the Air Lift 1000HD.

Here is what our rig normally looks like when leaving for a camping trip.





Here are the pics of what I did.......

The pic of the truck is a little dark and hard to see, but the Billstein's up front raise the truck 1.8\" and the TTC-1223VT Springs raise the rear 2\". Those are 34's on those 20\" rims.

Can't wait to hit the road on our next camping trip. Since I have added the necessary bits and pieces to our camper to make it \"Four Seasons\", we will take it up to the mountains a couple of times in February and March, as a base camp for a long weekend of skiing.










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pitch wrote:
God Bless ya dawg! Your selfless acts of valor and speaking truth against internet doctorates have save thousands of families and their victims from flaming RV's flying off of cliffs into bus loads of blind nuns

Bless you!
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Bless you!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-07T04:22:42.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-07T04:22:42.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":592},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456602","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:36":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:36","position":23,"name":"Navigator","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:227630":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:227630","uid":227630,"login":"Grit_dog","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-05-06T12:40:47.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:36"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:227630"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456601":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456601","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456601":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3456601","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456601,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456601"},"body":"^Bit there’s no bad info, no magical light duty $.50 seal that makes the truck lighter duty.
None of that (within reason).
But that’s the difference between those that understand and those that refuse to understand.
It’s a proliferation of paranoia or something on this forum.
Heck the new thread about the guy going to trade up his F150 to 3/4ton diesel to pull his 8k TT around, almost immediately get like 3 different posts about “check the payload on the new truck”, “you should get a 3500 so you’re not overloaded”, etc. And all he was doing was asking if there were any things in particular to look out for with that model of truck. Like reliability stuff. It was already a given that the new truck is more than capable and frankly 1 size larger than necessary.

Given “most” members here are at least old enough to sign up for AARP, at what point in your lives did all of a sudden, newer, more capable trucks become less capable in your minds?
Was it the advent of the internet or some other phenomena?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-06T08:23:53.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-06T08:23:53.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":592},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456601","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:225976":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:225976","uid":225976,"login":"Huntindog","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-08T05:04:49.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:225976"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456600":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456600","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456600":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:225976"},"id":"message:3456600","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456600,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456600"},"body":"
Grit dog wrote:
Some of y'all cant just say \"Looks nice, have a good day\" and move on, can ya?

My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?
Yes. It is because I deal in facts.... Not the way I would prefer they be. The way they are.

And having been here a really long time, I know that letting some bad info go unchallenged will result in some newbie reading it and making a mistake. I of course realize that their are different opinions on everything.... But being quiet, or worse saying \"Looks good have a nice day\" is not the answer.
At least when something is challenged, then the newbie may do some more research before making up his/her mind. ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-05T10:11:54.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-05T10:11:54.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":592},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456600","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456599":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456599","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456599":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3456599","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456599,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456599"},"body":"
MFL wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
Some of y'all cant just say \"Looks nice, have a good day\" and move on, can ya?

My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?


Don't know if it was all that BRIGHT BLUE, that got your panties in a wad. I can't look at it long enough to read much of it. Makes my cataracts throb!

Jerry


Nothin's in a wad (how d0 you know I wear my wife's underwear though?...).
It's just discouraging to see the same drivel every day. Doesn't matter to a poster like the OP here, because he has a head on his shoulders and obviously understands what he's doing, but the mass proliferation of towing and payload paranoia makes me think some of these folks are sponsored by the UAW, to help keep them in business by getting people to upgrade their vehicles unnecessarily and often!

Just trying to keep it real for the folks who are actually looking for knowledge and not some party line cr@p from people who are exspurts because they bought a camper trailer!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-05T09:41:33.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-05T09:41:33.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":592},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456599","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:376850":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:376850","uid":376850,"login":"mtofell1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-12-08T18:37:30.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:376850"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456598":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456598","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456598":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:376850"},"id":"message:3456598","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456598,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456598"},"body":"
BenK wrote:
Curious how folks know the OP is not over/under his TV’s ratings...


Because dirt bikes aren't made of foam :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"129","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-05T09:06:27.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-05T09:06:27.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":591},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456598","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:38":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:38","position":27,"name":"Nomad II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:839":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:839","uid":839,"login":"MFL","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-11-28T16:31:49.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:38"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:839"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456597":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456597","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456597":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:839"},"id":"message:3456597","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456597,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456597"},"body":"
Grit dog wrote:
Some of y'all cant just say \"Looks nice, have a good day\" and move on, can ya?

My main question is are you this overtly critical in the real world, day to day, face to face, or is it just the internet courage that makes your inner antagonist come out?


Don't know if it was all that BRIGHT BLUE, that got your panties in a wad. I can't look at it long enough to read much of it. Makes my cataracts throb!

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I'm more amazed everyday, although should expect it here, that someone would try to overanalyze the OP's winter prep scheme (especially with the OP clearly exuding his knowledge and skills, not some \"what can I tow\" newby question), not only from a winter prep standpoint, but to then wrap it back into a weight discussion!

My buddy, thanks to his, umm, princess wife, ended up with a little baby Airstream and he's been relegated to their only personal vehicle being a Volvo wanna be SUV (poor guy, different story).
Similar size and weight to the OP's camper.
I've rode with him. Camper plopped on a hitch on the back of the Volvo, no wdh, and down the road they go. Handles well, stops fine with the remote add on cellphone trailer brakes. Heck, it doesn't even sag too much. It might all loaded up with everything but the kitchen sink for the princess and the kids though.
Point is, it's half the tow rig that a newer Ram 1500 is and it's JUST FINE.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-05T07:28:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-05T07:28:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":592},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3456554/message:3456596","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456595":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3456595","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3456595":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3456595","revisionNum":1,"uid":3456595,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3456554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3456554"},"subject":"Re: Ram 1500 at Load Maximum Woes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3456595"},"body":"Some of y'all cant just say \"Looks nice, have a good day\" and move on, can ya?

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