RAM 1500 Ecodiesel, anybody seen one in the wild?

NinerBikes wrote:

If you feel your wage is meager, go out and get a better paying job. It's a free country.

When I got sick of working for someone else, I ended up starting my own business. Problem solved. I decided if I had to work, and be miserable working for someone else, and making peanuts, or working for myself, calling the shots, and making better money, that the latter was the better choice for me.

OMG last post, so you know I said "my meager wages (as they have been called by a few on here) " I don't feel my wages are meager but there are a few people here that have told me they are. I like my job and like what I do, if I didn't I would not be there.

My issue is with your anti-union BS, making comments about something you obviously know nothing about. The UAW has given concessions to the big three since 2007, cuts in benefits, wage freeze and no cost on living, something managment has NOT DONE! But yet you continue to blame the union worker for all the problems. This only shows you have know idea what is going on. All management workers have contracts, so why do you think the worker should not?

Why, because you like 90% of all businesses owners think only you should make a good living. But you will cry about how your workforce has no dedication and will quit at a drop of a hat. I know people that own their own businesses and have said the very thing. I ask them why do you lay people off when times get tight, why not cut your wages or the wages of your family members to keep the real workers working? That was not very well received as I'm 100% sure you don't like it either. But if you what them to be dedicated or committed to you, then you must be dedicated or committed to them!

That's enough from me as I'm also 100% sure that you just don't get it and never will.

Don

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:

Nope, don't have to prove anything, you can assume all you want. I'd be all for drug testing of employees, random samples pulled.

Drugs and alcohol have no place in my workplace, not in construction, not around tools that cut, maim or can bleed you out in under a minute if you cut a femoral artery, or working with nail guns, and you pin your foot to sheathing on a roof nailing it off. Seen it happen, far too many times. Or missing thumbs in a cabinet mill shop. Dumb and dumber. If you are drinking at work, on the clock, you don't take your job seriously enough.

The difference between you and me is I was an employer, you're an employee. I created jobs... for employees that wanted to work, not goof off, party, drink or get loaded on the job, on company time, on MY time, that I bought, that I pay you for, to be productive.

A union job, in my experience, is for a slacker, for too much pay and benefits for the yield they produce. I should also add I was a Cost Accountant /Financial Analyst for a fortune 50 aerospace defense company at one point, early in my career. I was keeping tabs on productivity, by time card, by employee, by job/work order/sales order. Union employees breed a pathetic type of work ethic, in my observations, over the years.

It's no surprise why GM needed bailing out. Or Chrysler, back in 1979... the theme is familar... Union wages too high. Always a poor Democratic president, doing what he needs to do to get union votes to save union jobs. More taxes, redistribution of wealth. And it consistently fails. Those are my observations, with my own two eyes. It's no surprise US car companies are not something I'd buy, let alone lease. Having to import an Italian diesel motor for a US assembled full size pick up truck is just plain wrong. I am sure Cummins could whack a couple cylinders off and make an inline 4.0, heck, whack 3 off and run as an inline 3 cylinder 3.0, for a half ton PU. It would pull like a mule. Might sound a little funny at idle, but it would get the job done.

Union failure.

Man Dude you just don't get it. Chrysler, GM and Ford UNION wages make up 12% of the vehicle costs. But Upper Management wage and benefits make up 8%+ for less then 5% of the work force! So spue your anti union BS all you want most intelligent people know better.

Just a heads up, in 2007 the top thirteen managers made more then the TOTAL union work force, so tell me how my meger wages (as they have been called by a few on here) are the problem?

Don

If you feel your wage is meager, go out and get a better paying job. It's a free country.

When I got sick of working for someone else, I ended up starting my own business. Problem solved. I decided if I had to work, and be miserable working for someone else, and making peanuts, or working for myself, calling the shots, and making better money, that the latter was the better choice for me.

NinerBikes wrote:

Nope, don't have to prove anything, you can assume all you want. I'd be all for drug testing of employees, random samples pulled.

Drugs and alcohol have no place in my workplace, not in construction, not around tools that cut, maim or can bleed you out in under a minute if you cut a femoral artery, or working with nail guns, and you pin your foot to sheathing on a roof nailing it off. Seen it happen, far too many times. Or missing thumbs in a cabinet mill shop. Dumb and dumber. If you are drinking at work, on the clock, you don't take your job seriously enough.

The difference between you and me is I was an employer, you're an employee. I created jobs... for employees that wanted to work, not goof off, party, drink or get loaded on the job, on company time, on MY time, that I bought, that I pay you for, to be productive.

A union job, in my experience, is for a slacker, for too much pay and benefits for the yield they produce. I should also add I was a Cost Accountant /Financial Analyst for a fortune 50 aerospace defense company at one point, early in my career. I was keeping tabs on productivity, by time card, by employee, by job/work order/sales order. Union employees breed a pathetic type of work ethic, in my observations, over the years.

It's no surprise why GM needed bailing out. Or Chrysler, back in 1979... the theme is familar... Union wages too high. Always a poor Democratic president, doing what he needs to do to get union votes to save union jobs. More taxes, redistribution of wealth. And it consistently fails. Those are my observations, with my own two eyes. It's no surprise US car companies are not something I'd buy, let alone lease. Having to import an Italian diesel motor for a US assembled full size pick up truck is just plain wrong. I am sure Cummins could whack a couple cylinders off and make an inline 4.0, heck, whack 3 off and run as an inline 3 cylinder 3.0, for a half ton PU. It would pull like a mule. Might sound a little funny at idle, but it would get the job done.

Union failure.

Man Dude you just don't get it. Chrysler, GM and Ford UNION wages make up 12% of the vehicle costs. But Upper Management wage and benefits make up 8%+ for less then 5% of the work force! So spue your anti union BS all you want most intelligent people know better.

Just a heads up, in 2007 the top thirteen managers made more then the TOTAL union work force, so tell me how my meger wages (as they have been called by a few on here) are the problem?

Don

I am sure Cummins could whack a couple cylinders off and make an inline 4.0

They did/have the 4BT 3.9L, many of the "brown" trucks have em

Heres one in a 1966 Bronco...

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0709dp_1966_ford_bronco/

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I don't have to prove anything. You do know why bars spring up around factories don't you? So you know most of us do not tolerate drunks/druggies. We just had a lab tech fired for smoking pot in the plant. Chrysler has an hot line to report workers that violate the drug and alcohol policies. They received two different reports about him and showed up at the plant with the Perrysburg TWP police in tow. When he was walked out the police searched him and found pot and a pipe on him. Sad that you feel you're so high and mighty that you can condemn every Chrysler worker for the actions of a few. So can you walk on water also? So do tell just what do you do for a living? Maybe we can get the local media to follow your workers around.

Oh and BTW it looks like ALL of the thirteen workers got their jobs back.
The Chrysler Group announced today that the 13 employees from their Detroit Jefferson North Assembly Plant who were fired for getting caught drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana during their lunch breaks have had their jobs reinstated by the company as ordered by a legal arbitrator – helping to illustrate when a brutal failure the legal system often proves to be in the US. - See more at: LINK Did take over a year but I'm sure most won't last long.

Oh BTW I used to take management out to lunch, do you think they where drinking pop? Think again. It's a fact of life in EVERY walk of life, pull your head out of the sand (or wherever it is you keep it) and take a look around. Stop by Lil Sheba's across from GM Toledo Powertrain at lunch, both management and hourly are drinking then crossing Alexis Rd to make it back to build those great GM transmissions! :B

Nope, don't have to prove anything, you can assume all you want. I'd be all for drug testing of employees, random samples pulled.

Drugs and alcohol have no place in my workplace, not in construction, not around tools that cut, maim or can bleed you out in under a minute if you cut a femoral artery, or working with nail guns, and you pin your foot to sheathing on a roof nailing it off. Seen it happen, far too many times. Or missing thumbs in a cabinet mill shop. Dumb and dumber. If you are drinking at work, on the clock, you don't take your job seriously enough.

The difference between you and me is I was an employer, you're an employee. I created jobs... for employees that wanted to work, not goof off, party, drink or get loaded on the job, on company time, on MY time, that I bought, that I pay you for, to be productive.

A union job, in my experience, is for a slacker, for too much pay and benefits for the yield they produce. I should also add I was a Cost Accountant /Financial Analyst for a fortune 50 aerospace defense company at one point, early in my career. I was keeping tabs on productivity, by time card, by employee, by job/work order/sales order. Union employees breed a pathetic type of work ethic, in my observations, over the years.

It's no surprise why GM needed bailing out. Or Chrysler, back in 1979... the theme is familar... Union wages too high. Always a poor Democratic president, doing what he needs to do to get union votes to save union jobs. More taxes, redistribution of wealth. And it consistently fails. Those are my observations, with my own two eyes. It's no surprise US car companies are not something I'd buy, let alone lease. Having to import an Italian diesel motor for a US assembled full size pick up truck is just plain wrong. I am sure Cummins could whack a couple cylinders off and make an inline 4.0, heck, whack 3 off and run as an inline 3 cylinder 3.0, for a half ton PU. It would pull like a mule. Might sound a little funny at idle, but it would get the job done.

Union failure.

I don't have to prove anything. You do know why bars spring up around factories don't you? So you know most of us do not tolerate drunks/druggies. We just had a lab tech fired for smoking pot in the plant. Chrysler has an hot line to report workers that violate the drug and alcohol policies. They received two different reports about him and showed up at the plant with the Perrysburg TWP police in tow. When he was walked out the police searched him and found pot and a pipe on him. Sad that you feel you're so high and mighty that you can condemn every Chrysler worker for the actions of a few. So can you walk on water also? So do tell just what do you do for a living? Maybe we can get the local media to follow your workers around.

Oh and BTW it looks like ALL of the thirteen workers got their jobs back.
The Chrysler Group announced today that the 13 employees from their Detroit Jefferson North Assembly Plant who were fired for getting caught drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana during their lunch breaks have had their jobs reinstated by the company as ordered by a legal arbitrator – helping to illustrate when a brutal failure the legal system often proves to be in the US. - See more at: LINK Did take over a year but I'm sure most won't last long.

Oh BTW I used to take management out to lunch, do you think they where drinking pop? Think again. It's a fact of life in EVERY walk of life, pull your head out of the sand (or wherever it is you keep it) and take a look around. Stop by Lil Sheba's across from GM Toledo Powertrain at lunch, both management and hourly are drinking then crossing Alexis Rd to make it back to build those great GM transmissions! :B

Back on subject... I test drove a Ram 1500 today, 2 wheel drive version, Laramie? $43,000 MSRP. A look under the hood... what a spaghetti center. And what kind of idiot hangs the coolant reservoir on the fan shroud or radiator frame up front, right behind the heat from the radiator? I was not able to locate the HPFP or the fuel filter, under the hood.

Pulling up the engine cover, both rubber grommets pulled out of the cover, instead sitting on the pronged pins, instead of staying in the engine cover.

First impressions are lasting. I'll keep my Touareg for towing my 21 foot travel trailer, there's no comparison. Getting motor oil for this motor, LL03 Low SAPS 600ppm, 5w-30 A3 rated is going to be a major PIA for this motor's DPF and to keep the ash loading from the burnt motor oil fumes down to prevent clogging.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
They fired those clowns and only one came back. Why did he come back you ask, because they couldn't prove he was drinking alcohol. He was smart enough to put his bottle in a brown bag. The story was aired by local news so no testing could be done.

Do you think this is not going on at Ford,GM, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Benz, VW and every factory in the USA be it UAW or non union.

Don

Only a drunk or a bum drinks his booze from a brown bag. Yeah, if the shoe fits, wear it. Me? I drink from a bottle, chilled, and I am damn proud of the label on the booze I'm drinking. No need to hide it in a brown paper sack. I drink it at a time and in a location where it is socially acceptable.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
They fired those clowns and only one came back. Why did he come back you ask, because they couldn't prove he was drinking alcohol. He was smart enough to put his bottle in a brown bag. The story was aired by local news so no testing could be done.

Do you think this is not going on at Ford,GM, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Benz, VW and every factory in the USA be it UAW or non union.

Don

Don, you can assume it goes on... I am not that ignorant... I believe one is innocent until proven guilty, gets caught in the act, or is so blatant about it that actions of more than a few become the need to make a scapegoat of it and bring it public.

Until you have video, or actual proof of drunk union workers at Bratislavia, I stand by my beliefs. Dodge wears a black mark, in my book, by the stand the union leaders took in making the effort to reinstate all employees observed smoking and drinking, instead of self policing it's own members. That other members on the line would want to work with drunks and druggies on the line tells me they have no pride in workmanship... partying is more important than working and doing a good job.

They fired those clowns and only one came back. Why did he come back you ask, because they couldn't prove he was drinking alcohol. He was smart enough to put his bottle in a brown bag. The story was aired by local news so no testing could be done.

Do you think this is not going on at Ford,GM, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Benz, VW and every factory in the USA be it UAW or non union.

Don