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ScottG wrote:
N-Trouble wrote:
Real world numbers I suspect will be much less especially if people use these as grocery getters for short around town trips. Modern diesel DPF systems don't work well under these conditions and will only lead to more frequent and longer regen cycles hurting mileage.
Just wait til they get released and all the people calling foul when they find their mileage numbers are no where near EPA figures.
Actually the very newest diesels don't have problems with short trips as much as those just a couple of years ago. The use of Urea drastically cut the need for regens.
Are you basing this on first hand knowledge, or something you read in a magazine???
I have a 2012 Duramax that uses DEF and can tell you the emissions systems on these trucks don't like short trips. Its no different than my cousins 2009 Duramax minus DEF. There are lots of 3/4 ton diesel owners whos rigs use DEF that will tell you exactly the same thing. WHile these sytems work well when the truck is being worked carrying heavy loads or used for long highway trips, short around town trips/commutes are not where they shine. Mileage goes down the tube in a hurry. I expect the Ecodiesel will be no different in this regard.Goldstalker wrote:
naturist wrote:
pappcam wrote:
You have to take into account that diesel is roughly 20% more expensive than gasoline. Especially if it's a daily driver.
Just sayin'
Yup. the fuel is indeed 20% more expensive. Of course, it drags you 30% farther down the road, so you still wind up with lower per-mile fuel costs.
Yes, but the maintenance and repair cost is more with a diesel.
With a Cummins you change the oil and filter plus air and fuel filters.
Oil and filter up to 15K same for air and fuel filters.
So I disagree. Don't know about GM or Ford Diesel costs.K Charles wrote:
Dodge hasn't made pickups since 2010.
That is not correct. My 11 says Dodge in one place so does my Dad's 12. Someone can correct me but 13 is the first year for the "RAM" only badging.Dannyabear1 wrote:
But but but the front end is gonna fall out
Huh? :h- But but but the front end is gonna fall out
- Read an article in the DieselNow magazine and they tested the new 1500 diesel with boat/trailer (7020 lbs.0 and they averaged 19.46 MPG towing and a best 31.36 driving normally without a trailer. Crazy milage for sure.
N-Trouble wrote:
Real world numbers I suspect will be much less especially if people use these as grocery getters for short around town trips. Modern diesel DPF systems don't work well under these conditions and will only lead to more frequent and longer regen cycles hurting mileage.
Just wait til they get released and all the people calling foul when they find their mileage numbers are no where near EPA figures.
Actually the very newest diesels don't have problems with short trips as much as those just a couple of years ago. The use of Urea drastically cut the need for regens.- Does anyone really know what type of DPF system Ram is using? And does anyone really know how often you need to change the oil on one, or how many qts it takes? How often do fuel filters need changed?
A lot of pre disposed negative comments on the assumed higher maintenance cost for the Ram 1500 diesel. Until the owners manual comes out and someone reads it to figure out the maintenance schedule maybe we should wait to drop the hammer on another supposedly expensive diesel truck.
The fact that people buy VW's, Jeeps, Audi's, BMW's and Chevy Cruze diesels it's my guess that they're not used for heavy towing, but mostly everyday use.
Seems as though Ram would build a LD diesel truck that can preform everyday chores and not have exorbitantly high maintenance cost.
Rams putting a commonly used diesel motor in the Ram. Same one that the Jeep uses. I guess the Jeep won't be able to just be driven around town either. naturist wrote:
pappcam wrote:
You have to take into account that diesel is roughly 20% more expensive than gasoline. Especially if it's a daily driver.
Just sayin'
Yup. the fuel is indeed 20% more expensive. Of course, it drags you 30% farther down the road, so you still wind up with lower per-mile fuel costs.
Yes, but the maintenance and repair cost is more with a diesel.- Double Post :(
