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Mar 24, 2014Explorer II
ib515 said:
"Pretty decisive win for the RAM in every single performance related category. I'm surprised the higher tq and larger displacement 4.3L V6 didn't do better. Must be the 8 speed auto in the RAM that gave it the edge. "
I think you nailed it....re: the extra ratios.
Reminds me, back around 1970, of a buddy's '66 Mustang. He had a 289 V8 that he installed a 3 X 2 bbl carb set up, coupled with some really good exhaust headers and a few other speed parts that I can't remember anymore.
But he only had a 3 speed standard transmission. He could never compete with other '60's Mustangs with 289 V8 and 4 speeds. Even though his 289 was putting out a bit more power than the stock 289's...he just didn't have enough gears.
I think it would be a different story if the GM had a similar transmission as the Dodge...pardon me...Ram as it is now known.
All things being equal...# of speeds in transmissions, final drive ratio, traction, weight....then it's all about engine power...which of course comes down to whose got the best power to weight ratio and the best gearing.
My understanding is that the Dodge transmission is a ZF....similar to the ZF automatic used in BMW and Mercedes RWD vehicles. I'm sure there have been mods done to the tranny to accommodate the different needs a truck has....probably ratios, different components for increased durability, etc.
A neighbour has a 2013 Ram 1500 4 door, 4WD pickup with the 3.6 V6. I like it very much and I think it's a fine truck. One I would consider if my wife would go for a pick up truck.
The other truck I would consider would be a GM 1500, 4 door, 4WD with the 4.3 LS V6. The LS engine family is quite impressive.
"Pretty decisive win for the RAM in every single performance related category. I'm surprised the higher tq and larger displacement 4.3L V6 didn't do better. Must be the 8 speed auto in the RAM that gave it the edge. "
I think you nailed it....re: the extra ratios.
Reminds me, back around 1970, of a buddy's '66 Mustang. He had a 289 V8 that he installed a 3 X 2 bbl carb set up, coupled with some really good exhaust headers and a few other speed parts that I can't remember anymore.
But he only had a 3 speed standard transmission. He could never compete with other '60's Mustangs with 289 V8 and 4 speeds. Even though his 289 was putting out a bit more power than the stock 289's...he just didn't have enough gears.
I think it would be a different story if the GM had a similar transmission as the Dodge...pardon me...Ram as it is now known.
All things being equal...# of speeds in transmissions, final drive ratio, traction, weight....then it's all about engine power...which of course comes down to whose got the best power to weight ratio and the best gearing.
My understanding is that the Dodge transmission is a ZF....similar to the ZF automatic used in BMW and Mercedes RWD vehicles. I'm sure there have been mods done to the tranny to accommodate the different needs a truck has....probably ratios, different components for increased durability, etc.
A neighbour has a 2013 Ram 1500 4 door, 4WD pickup with the 3.6 V6. I like it very much and I think it's a fine truck. One I would consider if my wife would go for a pick up truck.
The other truck I would consider would be a GM 1500, 4 door, 4WD with the 4.3 LS V6. The LS engine family is quite impressive.
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