Ram 2500 Payload

twodownzero wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"you will run out of GVWR first."

That's the one that really does not matter! Don't exceed axle ratings and license the truck for what it weighs loaded.

OP, you are WAY over your head with that truck RV combo.

Nonsense.

And I can't license my truck for more than the "manufacturer's rated capacity." And nobody can operate and overloaded vehicle in my state without violating the law.

GVWR is the only rating that matters on a SRW pickup. GVWR will be busted way before any other rating.

The rear tires would be busted too if I could load the front enough to hit the front GAWR, but short of hanging tractor weights or a snow plow on the front, that's not really possible.

Seems like you acknowledge that in your later posts, so I'm really not sure why you'd suggest that GVWR does not matter. GVWR encompasses much more than just the axle rating. It takes into account the brakes, tires, and other factors engineers consider when deciding how much dynamic load the truck can take. It is especially true in the era where 3/4 ton trucks have link/coil suspensions in the rear where the 1 tons have retained leaf springs.
Heavy pin weights require, at minimum, a 1 ton SRW, preferably a newer one with 18" wheels and the higher capacity tires that come on them. Before this, everyone who wanted to overload their 3/4 ton truck just argued that it was the same axle and suspension without the overload springs, which to the extent that argument ever mattered, it is irrelevant now.

If I planned to have at trailer with a 3,100 lb empty pin weight, I'd probably just get a dually now unless the towing truck was a regular cab. The newer SRW 1 tons (depending on configuration, assuming 4 door) have something like 4k pounds of payload, but it sure doesn't take many passengers and dogs in the cab to get there with a 200 pound hitch in the bed, water on board in the 5er, and that much pin weight. DRW gets 2k+ additional pounds and of course the stability that comes with it.

Trucks are so heavy these days; I don't even know why manufacturers are making 3/4 ton trucks anymore. In the 80s when empty trucks were 5,500 pounds, it was a different story. These days with the trucks pushing 8,000 pounds empty, it just makes no sense to buy a 3/4 ton truck to pull any kind of 5th wheel, especially when the rest of the drivetrain is capable of pulling 2x what the GVWR will support for pin weight.

I suppose a 3/4 ton will still pull a monster ball hitch trailer with the right hitch.

Answer this simple question. WHY do they have my SAE rated front axle at 6k and my rear at 9,750# when my front axle DRY is 5,250#. So simply add my unloaded front axle weight my my rear axle rating, HMMMMM that is 15,000# so how the HE!! can I use my rear axle rating without adding a single # to my front axle and NOT be over my GVWR???

GVWR's are all about licensing and insurance!