Ram 3500 MPG test

ShinerBock wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ Honesty I don't have a problem with the fill technique that was used. I used to check my fuel economy on every tank with my 2011 Ford, filling that same method, and got very consistant results. As long as you fill using the same method at the beginning and end of your trip there shouldn't be a problem with their method. But, I am surprised at the difference. If it had been the other way ... ie, if the Ford had burned 30% more fuel than Ram, there is a very good chance I would end up with a goat in my garage. I would at least be doing my own mpg check before buying.

It is not just the method that people have an issue with, it was the fact that it was on different days and even different conditions. Anyone who tows anything knows that there would be a huge difference in mpg between towing with the wind versus towing against the wind. I have made the same trip to the coast pulling the same trailer and have a 2-3 mpg difference between the two. Since these were done on different days and they don't post the conditions, there are many variables left on the table to say for sure. Not to mention a broken in truck versus one that barely has 1,000 miles on it.

If you want to base you argument on this test just so you can get a warm and fuzzy to say that a Ford finally wins an MPG test, then by all means do so. Just don't expect others who have more knowledge about how such things effect towing mpg to do the same.

I guess I wasn't paying enough attention... I didn't realize the Ram was going against the wind both directions and the Ford had a tail wind in both directions. That could certainly affect the fuel economy. Those TFL guys.:S

Cummins12V98 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
The DPF gauge is an option through Forscan on Ford. If the Ram has a gauge I'm sure TFL would have made sure the Ram didn't go into regen during the test.

You mean the same guys that did NOT use ALT ride mode on their RAM Fuel Economy Test when they were very interested in how the RAM would ride while they were being bounced around doing the Ford and GM fuel economy tests???

Dumbest **** thing testing on completely different days.

Did y'all notice sometimes the nozzle was fully inserted and sometimes it was 3" from being so???

The fuel economy test method is plain STUPID and I have said so for years even with RAM doing the best.

Like I mentioned before it would be real easy to fill these trucks to the top using a 5 gallon can to do the complete first fill and the topping off on the return.

If you fill your truck till the nozzle clicks off.... wait 30 seconds and fill it again. Then take note of how much fuel it takes to absolutely fill it to the brim you might find it takes an additional gal. Next time it might take .9 gallons. Next time 1.1. I can't imagine it varying more than .2 gallons from one fill up to the next. So giving the Ram the benefit of the doubt we could say the Ram actually used 10.8 gallons instead of the 11 gallons measured. So, 66/10.8 = 6.1 mpg. And if we say their filling method just happened to favour the Ford by being off the other way.... so, the Ford actually used 8.66 gallons instead of the 8.46 that they measured we get 66/8.66 = 7.6 mpg. Bottom line is that it is possible that the Ram only used 25% more fuel than the Ford.

Class 7 and 8 on the chart shows the F650/750 sales.

4x4ord wrote:
The DPF gauge is an option through Forscan on Ford. If the Ram has a gauge I'm sure TFL would have made sure the Ram didn't go into regen during the test.

You mean the same guys that did NOT use ALT ride mode on their RAM Fuel Economy Test when they were very interested in how the RAM would ride while they were being bounced around doing the Ford and GM fuel economy tests???

Dumbest **** thing testing on completely different days.

Did y'all notice sometimes the nozzle was fully inserted and sometimes it was 3" from being so???

The fuel economy test method is plain STUPID and I have said so for years even with RAM doing the best.

Like I mentioned before it would be real easy to fill these trucks to the top using a 5 gallon can to do the complete first fill and the topping off on the return.

The DPF gauge is an option through Forscan on Ford. If the Ram has a gauge I'm sure TFL would have made sure the Ram didn't go into regen during the test.

4x4ord wrote:
Does the Ram have a gauge showing % full on the DPF?

Delete, you said DPF not DEF.

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ Honesty I don't have a problem with the fill technique that was used. I used to check my fuel economy on every tank with my 2011 Ford, filling that same method, and got very consistant results. As long as you fill using the same method at the beginning and end of your trip there shouldn't be a problem with their method. But, I am surprised at the difference. If it had been the other way ... ie, if the Ford had burned 30% more fuel than Ram, there is a very good chance I would end up with a goat in my garage. I would at least be doing my own mpg check before buying.

It is not just the method that people have an issue with, it was the fact that it was on different days and even different conditions. Anyone who tows anything knows that there would be a huge difference in mpg between towing with the wind versus towing against the wind. I have made the same trip to the coast pulling the same trailer and have a 2-3 mpg difference between the two. Since these were done on different days and they don't post the conditions, there are many variables left on the table to say for sure. Not to mention a broken in truck versus one that barely has 1,000 miles on it.

If you want to base you argument on this test just so you can get a warm and fuzzy to say that a Ford finally wins an MPG test, then by all means do so. Just don't expect others who have more knowledge about how such things effect towing mpg to do the same.

4x4ord wrote:
Does the Ram have a gauge showing % full on the DPF?

Not my 2015 and I do not care. The computers take care of it and it has not been a problem. I look at the DEF and Fuel gauge, and drive on. When DEF gets to half full I swing into a WM and add a box for Peak Blu DEF.

Does the Ram have a gauge showing % full on the DPF?

^^^^ Honesty I don't have a problem with the fill technique that was used. I used to check my fuel economy on every tank with my 2011 Ford, filling that same method, and got very consistant results. As long as you fill using the same method at the beginning and end of your trip there shouldn't be a problem with their method. But, I am surprised at the difference. If it had been the other way ... ie, if the Ford had burned 30% more fuel than Ram, there is a very good chance I would end up with a goat in my garage. I would at least be doing my own mpg check before buying.