Ram 3500 MPG test

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ShinerBock wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
Ford sells quite a few more 6.7s than Cummins does. I can't remember exact numbers .... might be 15% more. I wonder if the Gasoline powered 7.3 will cut into the Powerstroke and Cummins sales equally?

Not a chance. Ford may(or may not) sell more Powerstrokes than Ram sells Cummins 6.7L engines, but it does not sell more 6.7L than Cummins.

Any idea how many 6.7L Cummins engines are sold in a year? We have several of them in F650 and F750's at my work and I see now that International is offering them in their truck lines.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
From what I read RAM sells more Class 3 pickups than GM or Ford. Ford even includes f450’s in that market.

I’d like to see a source on that because I don’t think it’s true.

I also don’t think RAM sells more HD trucks than 1500’s. That 1500 marker is huge.

From what I read RAM sells more Class 3 pickups than GM or Ford. Ford even includes f450’s in that market.

4x4ord wrote:
Ford sells quite a few more 6.7s than Cummins does. I can't remember exact numbers .... might be 15% more. I wonder if the Gasoline powered 7.3 will cut into the Powerstroke and Cummins sales equally?

Not a chance. Ford may(or may not) sell more Powerstrokes than Ram sells Cummins 6.7L engines, but it does not sell more 6.7L than Cummins.

Ford sells quite a few more 6.7s than Cummins does. I can't remember exact numbers .... might be 15% more. I wonder if the Gasoline powered 7.3 will cut into the Powerstroke and Cummins sales equally?

Me Again wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.

In that case, the Cummins 6.7L is by far the most produced engine out of the three.

I'm talking about engines that went into trucks with all the emissions equipment that we drive.

Might still be close to the highest number. Ford likely sells more F150's than F250's and F350's. RAM sells more 2500's and 3500's than 1500's.

It's been a couple of years but I also saw an article that said Ram had the highest percentage of diesel engines in their HD models too. I can't remember the percentages anymore but I think it was by a fair margin.

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.

In that case, the Cummins 6.7L is by far the most produced engine out of the three.

I'm talking about engines that went into trucks with all the emissions equipment that we drive.

I am also talking about on road trucks with emissions equipment. It is the same engine down the same assembly line using the same kind of emissions requirements/equipment. Ford, Peterbilt, Kenworth, International, Freightliner, and Ram all used the same 6.7L engine but with different tuning depending on application. Just about every diesel Ryder and Penske box van you see has the same Cummins 6.7L.

Heck, even the PACCAR PX-7 "proprietary" engine is the same 6.7L Cummins engine but with a valve cover that says PACCAR on it instead of Cummins. Also, if you see a school bus with a diesel, then there is a 95% chance it is the same Cummins 6.7L. They even ship them overseas to be used in European markets. When it comes to on road truck diesel engines currently being produced, there is not one engine that even comes close to the Cummins 6.7L production numbers.

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.

In that case, the Cummins 6.7L is by far the most produced engine out of the three.

I'm talking about engines that went into trucks with all the emissions equipment that we drive.

Might still be close to the highest number. Ford likely sells more F150's than F250's and F350's. RAM sells more 2500's and 3500's than 1500's.

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.

In that case, the Cummins 6.7L is by far the most produced engine out of the three.

I'm talking about engines that went into trucks with all the emissions equipment that we drive.