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- Wow! Glad you were ok. At least I hope you were. I'm surprised the GM suffered any damage at all. They probably buffed it out when they got it home.
Hannibal wrote:
Has anyone here or anywhere had trouble with their tailgate because Ford uses a C channel chassis? I've never heard anyone complain of this other than some goons on a Youtube video deliberately trying to damage a truck. I'm more concerned about the Ram's crappy little dried up ball joints and iffy AAM rear axle than I am about a tried and proven C channel chassis that can be flexed if loaded to the max and driven up on properly placed offset ramps as if that's normal every day occurrences.
Yes, we had a hard time opening our tailgate due to some minor flexing. This was from GM testing who has a stronger frame when talking on a cell phone in a construction zone. FYI, the GM tailgate still worked.
- No truck is perfect. All trucks are pretty darn good though. If you drive your dually off road and want to articulate your suspension while opening the tailgate, perhaps you want the Ram.
If you don't really see the need to do all that with a dually truck... maybe you are the guy that uses his dually to pull a camper on the highway 90%+ of the time and have occasional minor offroading... then any of the big 3 should work for you. - Hu didn't know that ,they sure look stock -just muddy .
I agree the 'flex' here is just the fanbois beatin on each other ,horses for courses - Has anyone here or anywhere had trouble with their tailgate because Ford uses a C channel chassis? I've never heard anyone complain of this other than some goons on a Youtube video deliberately trying to damage a truck. I'm more concerned about the Ram's crappy little dried up ball joints and iffy AAM rear axle than I am about a tried and proven C channel chassis that can be flexed if loaded to the max and driven up on properly placed offset ramps as if that's normal every day occurrences.
hone eagle wrote:
transamz9 wrote:
Bird Freak wrote:
sales hype. If a rigid frame was better Class 8 road tractors would use them.
If a class 8 truck was designed to go off the pavement then they would make them more rigid and AWD.
Ever see a logging truck? No AWD just chained up wheels and locked diffs,pulling god knows how much wieght with mud up to the frame .If the tires find 'bottom' they move.
Plain jane kenworth or petes just like you see on I75
No they are not Plain Jane just like what you see on I75. Their frames get doubled. I'm also not saying that rigid is the only way to go in all situations. Class 8 truck are designed completely different. If you notice, everything from the cab to the hood to the exhaust is attached to the frame in a way that it allows the frame to flex under extreme torque of the engine. The cab on your truck only attaches to the frame at the front with hinges and the hood is the same way.
I'm also not saying that the Ford frame is not strong, I'm saying it is not strong enough to keep all the parts working. Their frame works fine on a truck that you don't have to open the tail gate on but they either need to make a more rigid frame or more rigid bed.Cummins12V98 wrote:
Well let's make sure that everyone that says the old school frame Ford has now is the best will remember this post when the new Ford comes out as rigid as the RAM.
I didn't like when Chrysler did it to the Ram and I'm not looking forward to Ford doing it with the SD. Didn't care for the AAM rear axle after years of Dana axles either. But, cheaper's better.- Class 8's don't typically run a rigid frame because of the up-fit market. No class 8 manufacturer owns enough of the market to build their full-on accessory line economically. Notice that even CC trucks have their frame rails at 34". Same with all the HD trucks moving up in class. Again, this is so that all the up-fitters can design their upfitting packages on 1 single platform. If only 1 manufacturer built a fully boxed frame in that HD class of truck, how many up-fitters would be leaping at the chance to work on that 1 tiny segment of the market? Vast majority of those trucks are road trucks as well. For the class-8 trucks that really go on the rough roads, they Double the frame kinda like this: [[ ]]. This is so they can maintain compatibility with the up-fitter market and still have the rigidity they need their trucks to have to survive.
- Well let's make sure that everyone that says the old school frame Ford has now is the best will remember this post when the new Ford comes out as rigid as the RAM.
