Am surprised that the Ram guys are not thumping their chests (and rightfully so IMO) on overtaking GM for 2nd place in truck sales. Honestly, I like the front end of them and think this is their best looking one yet. Plus, we as consumers like to see what the mfr's do to outdo each other. But anyways, congrats to the Ram guys.

I was thinking about a new HD Chevrolet but I’m going to wait until it gets a bigger grille...

I don't think Ram overtook GM. They have overtook Chevrolet, but not the combined sales of the GM truck brands of Chevrolt and GMC.I count them as separate brands.

Looks like we have a new Big Mac in town. I guess the lowest in sales in no longer a badge of honor. :B

Seems the General is trying to lure customers back by slashing prices...Chevy slashes Silverado prices

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Huntindog
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
Bert Ackerman wrote:
FlatBroke wrote:
Charlie D. wrote:
Forum issues prevent me from seeing the first page but I found this.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/10/gm-truck-sales-outpace-ford-and-ram-in-q3-2019/

Finally a FAIR way for deciding truck sales.

But, but but, bbbb - bbbbbbbbbbut that's not fair. Two different brands.

Does it even matter since the thread has degenerated into tires, rust and IL winters, Mexico and Italy, and somehow even Ford is in the mix. Great entertainment though LOL.
They are built on the same production line. You can have a Chevy, a GMC etc. in any order come down the line. GMC is really just another trim level anymore.
Bionic_Man
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
burningman wrote:
I’ll just say that not buying a 1998 Dodge Cummins because it was assembled in Mexico was a big mistake, that ended up being one of the best pickup trucks of all time

In the past he claimed that it was a 2012 Ram that he wanted until he saw the light of where it was built.

If anyone believes that The Troller ever considers anything but a Ford vehicle, I’ve got some land I’d like to sell them.
ShinerBock
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
FishOnOne wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:

Don’t waste your time as I’m sure it’s a fairy tale. Also I’m sure that any US based Chrysler management gets any credit is when someone across the pond needs to cast blame for something that went wrong.

Are you saying it is fairy tale based on first hand knowledge, an article you read of someone with first hand knowledge, or is it just subjective and biased opinion? If the later, then I will stick with the first hand knowledge information.

I’m saying Marchionne threw Chrysler engineers under the bus for the failure of the important Chrysler 200 that we all know he approved to go into production.

All makes made an about face ending or putting an end date on many(if not all) of their sedans and small cars in the past few years due to low sales, including Ford. As I said before, the only time FCA group steps in is when a product or brand is not profitable. Aside from that FCA US LLC(aka the Chrysler side of FCA Group) is calling the shots on their US products especially the ones that are profitable. This is from an FCA exec and not from someones opinion or what they believe is true.
burningman
Explorer II
Oct 07, 2019
I’ll just say that not buying a 1998 Dodge Cummins because it was assembled in Mexico was a big mistake, that ended up being one of the best pickup trucks of all time
FishOnOne
Nomad
Oct 07, 2019
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:

Don’t waste your time as I’m sure it’s a fairy tale. Also I’m sure that any US based Chrysler management gets any credit is when someone across the pond needs to cast blame for something that went wrong.

Are you saying it is fairy tale based on first hand knowledge, an article you read of someone with first hand knowledge, or is it just subjective and biased opinion? If the later, then I will stick with the first hand knowledge information.

I’m saying Marchionne threw Chrysler engineers under the bus for the failure of the important Chrysler 200 that we all know he approved to go into production.
mich800
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:

I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".

To be honest. I think you would buy a Ford Powerstroke regardless if it were assembled in the US or not, and you just use the "assembled in USA" because you feel it gives you a one up on the Ram guys. I for one don't care, but I know a few that get their feathers ruffled because of it.

But he buys Michelin tires.

I do.... I purchased a set for my wife’s Edge Sport

But they are a foreign owned Company. :B

The ole where do the profits go scenario...

Wait, were you talking about Michelin? I thought you was talking about Ram.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Oct 07, 2019
Threads tend to wander VS die a cold death.
Bert_Ackerman
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
FlatBroke wrote:
Charlie D. wrote:
Forum issues prevent me from seeing the first page but I found this.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/10/gm-truck-sales-outpace-ford-and-ram-in-q3-2019/

Finally a FAIR way for deciding truck sales.

But, but but, bbbb - bbbbbbbbbbut that's not fair. Two different brands.

Does it even matter since the thread has degenerated into tires, rust and IL winters, Mexico and Italy, and somehow even Ford is in the mix. Great entertainment though LOL.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Oct 07, 2019
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:

I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".

To be honest. I think you would buy a Ford Powerstroke regardless if it were assembled in the US or not, and you just use the "assembled in USA" because you feel it gives you a one up on the Ram guys. I for one don't care, but I know a few that get their feathers ruffled because of it.

But he buys Michelin tires.

I do.... I purchased a set for my wife’s Edge Sport

But they are a foreign owned Company. :B
ShinerBock
Explorer
Oct 07, 2019
FishOnOne wrote:

Don’t waste your time as I’m sure it’s a fairy tale. Also I’m sure that any US based Chrysler management gets any credit is when someone across the pond needs to cast blame for something that went wrong.

Are you saying it is fairy tale based on first hand knowledge, an article you read of someone with first hand knowledge, or is it just subjective and biased opinion? If the later, then I will stick with the first hand knowledge information.

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