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- I ran out and measured and yup for a ATV to need to travel riding on my tailgate it needs a 9 foot wheelbase so like if my truck had a barn door tailgate I would drive the ATV in and then shut the doors :C :) :)
- I didn't see the reasoning behind this for a few minutes. My 99 Burb has barn doors on the rear end. I just can't see the DW pulling groceries out of the Burb with a tailgate. Some Burbs have them. With doors on the tail of a pickup, it would be way easier to remove smaller items from the bed of the truck without reaching over the tailgate.....think grass dump
- It seems that it would be pretty easy to retrofit some kind of strengthening cross member to the tailgate if you plan on using it in a heavy duty scenario. My main concern remains, how much of a payload hit will this feature inflict on an already meager number.
webslave wrote:
Hybridhunter wrote:
spoon059 wrote:
Bigfoot affair wrote:
Thats a selling feature? Would hate loading a quad etc on a tailgate like that...
I think most, if not all, manufacturers recommend removing the tailgate to load a quad or bike in the bed. If you had a tailgate that swung open like this, you wouldn't need to remove and store the tailgate...
And out in the real world, no one removes the tailgate exclusively to load a quad, and many use the tailgate as part of the parking spot, as many quads are larger than truck boxes.
This gimmick REDUCES the functionality, as opposed to increasing it!
Not sure about it reducing the functionality... When both halves are dropped down, it is a regular tailgate. On a regular tailgate the entire tailgate takes the load...on this split design each half would take half the load and until the figures are out for the load that it supports, it may not be any different than a regular tailgate. I'm sure that the engineers aren't going to produce a tailgate that would collapse under most uses, and they certainly know that, despite warning to the contrary, most of us overload our tailgates. I would certainly like being able to load lumber directly to the bed without having to reach across a high tailgate in order to do it. Picking up 6 or 8 bags of ready mix concrete? Swing the tailgate out of the way and stack them up. No need to stack them on the tailgate, climb up and move them off the tailgate into the bed. Neat idea...
I agree the new tailgate should be structurally solid.
But adding a seam right in the middle of the gate most likely effects the integrity of the gate. Is it enough to make a difference hopefully not.
But when a pallet of tile slides back and hist the tailgate I don't want it bowing, separating or flexing in the middle. I imagine there is some structural compromise for convenience sake in the design.
But again we are talking half ton trucks that generally do not have to meet the same demands of their HD counterparts. So any loss of structural integrity will not be noticed.Hybridhunter wrote:
spoon059 wrote:
Bigfoot affair wrote:
Thats a selling feature? Would hate loading a quad etc on a tailgate like that...
I think most, if not all, manufacturers recommend removing the tailgate to load a quad or bike in the bed. If you had a tailgate that swung open like this, you wouldn't need to remove and store the tailgate...
And out in the real world, no one removes the tailgate exclusively to load a quad, and many use the tailgate as part of the parking spot, as many quads are larger than truck boxes.
This gimmick REDUCES the functionality, as opposed to increasing it!
Not sure about it reducing the functionality... When both halves are dropped down, it is a regular tailgate. On a regular tailgate the entire tailgate takes the load...on this split design each half would take half the load and until the figures are out for the load that it supports, it may not be any different than a regular tailgate. I'm sure that the engineers aren't going to produce a tailgate that would collapse under most uses, and they certainly know that, despite warning to the contrary, most of us overload our tailgates. I would certainly like being able to load lumber directly to the bed without having to reach across a high tailgate in order to do it. Picking up 6 or 8 bags of ready mix concrete? Swing the tailgate out of the way and stack them up. No need to stack them on the tailgate, climb up and move them off the tailgate into the bed. Neat idea...Hybridhunter wrote:
dshelley wrote:
BUFFALODAN wrote:
They oughta work on improving their half ton payload capacity before doing anything else.
Why? You want more payload, buy a 2500, 3500, 4500, or 5500. Pick the one that fits the need, buy it and enjoy it. Is it a difficult concept?
That's donkey economics when every other brand has more capable trucks. Simple logic says buy another brand........
That statement shows how uninformed you are. For Ford and GM to manufacture a HD 1/2 truck requires parts that are specific to that class truck. That means having to R&D those components, test all of those components, manufacture or have them manufactured and lastly, stock more parts. So tell me why a manufacture would do this when they already have a 250/2500 platform? Talk about "donkey economics". But I don't expect you to comprehend this, because your only here to yet again bash Ram trucks.
It's OK because as the sales figures show Ram is taking sales from our competitors every month, month after month. So someone must like what we are building.
Don- Oh look, troll boy is spamming up another thread that has the word RAM in the subject line.
:R:R:R dshelley wrote:
BUFFALODAN wrote:
They oughta work on improving their half ton payload capacity before doing anything else.
Why? You want more payload, buy a 2500, 3500, 4500, or 5500. Pick the one that fits the need, buy it and enjoy it. Is it a difficult concept?
The Ford Class 5 truck carries a ton more than Ram's counterpart. I've been looking at these lately...- On occasion, a mere two sentences can certainly confirm the simplicity of one's logic. Appreciate the response.
dshelley wrote:
BUFFALODAN wrote:
They oughta work on improving their half ton payload capacity before doing anything else.
Why? You want more payload, buy a 2500, 3500, 4500, or 5500. Pick the one that fits the need, buy it and enjoy it. Is it a difficult concept?
That's donkey economics when every other brand has more capable trucks. Simple logic says buy another brand........
