Grit dog wrote:
Jonnygsx wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
Fair enough, but 3 bikes I’m pretty sure will require hitch racks front and back.
And when I suggested a traielr I was thinking a little 8’ utility trailer that weighs almost nothing, or even better a small cargo trailer. I mean, where do you store enough fuel for 3 or more bikes for multiple days (assuming you are wanting a compact tc and no traielr to get off the beaten path.)?
Either of these will be insignificant to pull compared to a toyhauler.
Not sure why you jumped to 3 bikes. I said a few, 2. Gas will go in the bed of the pickup or worst case on hitch carrier. If I even need to bring gas at all.
valhalla360 wrote:
Keep in mind, those bikes are way behind the rear axle, so they will add far more than 600lbs to the rear axle (I'm assuming the bikes are only around 450lb as the hitch and rack will likely push 150lb). You are probably looking at the bikes adding 900lbs to the rear axle because the center of gravity for them is probably 80" behind the rear axle, so the leverage effect will transfer around 300lb from the front tires to the rear. Add in the base curb weight plus 2800 for the camper and you are probably north of 6500-6800lbs on the rear axle.
Check the specs but that is probably over the axle limits.
Rear axle lists at 7050lbs on the 3500. 500lbs for the two bikes, 100bs for the double hitch hauler, I don't buy the whole leverage thing. Leverage on the hitch ok, because that has a point of contact you are leveraging against. But 600lbs on the rear axle is 600lbs. There isn't leverage connected to it.
Anyways, I didnt come here to discuss the bikes, I was only adding that to the list because of their weights. Sounds like a 3500 will do the trick. Now that I realize the 3500 isn't a step up from a 2500 in the same way its a step up from a 1500 to 2500 I guess its not that big a deal.
Look man, few =3, couple = 2. Can't put much gas in the truck bed......if there's a camper in it, but maybe you plan on using less than a tank of gas?
This is getting silly like the short bed long bed thread. Maybe just do some research because you're not liking the answers you're getting and you don't know much about moment arms. Regarding g your hitch comment and leverage, look at it this way. Hold The full gas can you won't need in your hand, arm at your side. Now hold it straight out and tell me it isn't heavier.
Few means more than 1. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/few Do they even make 3 bike hitch carriers? If you have a long bed pickup and a short bed camper you might be able to throw a few 5gal back there, but like I said this is dependent on where you are riding if you even need to bring gas. And also like I said, can always strap it to the hitch carrier or hell the **** ladder could hold it.
I understand the physics. Tongue weight and axle weight are not the same thing. The fulcrums are different. Anyways i'm trying to avoid being in the position where 100lbs is going to put me overload so it really doesn't matter does it?
Am I not doing research by starting these threads? I thought that is what I was doing, my mistake.
