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PDX_Zs
Explorer
Nov 23, 2017

Really Important truck features. :-)

A totally silly, but all too real topic as we are looking at a new pick 'em up next year. Plus it's a slow thanksgiving.

Having the Ford vs Dodge discussion in my head. Solid axle only please and thanks. Both great trucks. Both will do what we need. So what's the big decision point?

Is it payload? No, they both have plenty.
Is it torque and POWER? No. Both will go faster than we need.
Is it style? Nope. I think they both look great.
Brand? Nah.
Reliability? Both draw even in my head. Plus there are lots of other threads about that.

So what is it? I'm almost embarrassed to tell, but it's the real deal... And it's going to swing the deal one way or the other.

It's the stupid radio. Or infotainment as it's now called.

Having been through a couple vehicles, with these things. One 2006, one 2011, and one 2013. One from each brand actually. I can state categorically that any factory installed infotainment thing has a shelf life.

Oh they will work fine. But the tech gets old fast. It's like having a cell phone from the last decade that you can't upgrade.

Our 2006 truck got a nice Sony upgrade, as did my 2015 Wrangler. (UConnect cannot suck enough by the way) Now here's where I bring it around, so stay with me.

As of right now, CarPlay and android auto are where it's at. So that's a must. Advantage Ford. But who knows what's happening in a few years. So Ford takes a piece of technology with a finite life and builds their whole **** truck around it.

That's right, the radio thing can't be swapped out for aftermarket. Totally stupid. Whoever approved that design should be punched in the neck.

Advantage Dodge? Not so fast. Their unit is replaceable, but requires MAJOR surgery and and aftermarket front dash replacement. Again, a punch in the neck should be mandatory here.


TL/DR:

Memo to OEMs infotainment is a short lived technology. Please make them easily upgradeble to aftermarket in the future.



Thanks for paging through the rant and have a great Thanksgiving.

34 Replies

  • Foe what its worth (not much) I have a 2004 (yes its old tech) with an after market radio that does all kinds of stuff I don't need or understand. I wish they had left the stock radio in it but then, I probably wouldn't understand it either:R
  • If you want new technology you have to go Ford.
    1- Blind spot monitors
    2- Adaptive cruise control
    3- LED head lights
    4- Tail gate step
    5- 360 degree camera
    6- Messaging seats
    7- Power extending tow mirrors
    8- Full length sunroof.
    9- Power remote lowering tailgate.
    To my knowledge none of the above options are available on a Ram and if you don't have a need or desire for them it doesn't help your decision. Flat rear floor is also a nice feature as well as the front cut down windows. Good luck on your decision.
  • PDX.Zs wrote:
    Advantage Dodge? Not so fast. Their unit is replaceable, but requires MAJOR surgery and and aftermarket front dash replacement. Again, a punch in the neck should be mandatory here.

    Not at all. Easy to disassemble the dash and there is simply a small and inconsequential metal bracing to remove (if you have the base radio) to allow a double din radio install. Super easy $16 install kit looks seamless. It takes 5 minutes.

    Now... this applies to the base model ra1 or mid grade ra2 radio. No major surgery, no "front dash replacement" unless you are installing some custom shape radio... Replacing the 8.4 radio is more convoluted because the climate control and other features are built in to the radio (poor design in my mind... especially outside of warranty!)

    For the newer Ford, I found this kit... https://pac-audio.com/catalog/radio-replacement/rpk4-fd2201 Looks like it replaces the 4.2" display with integrated climate control. More expensive and difficult... but at least an option.

    I agree that its annoying that manufacturers are make such integrated radio's that are so expensive and difficult to replace. All the more reason that I enjoy "base model" trucks. Less expensive gadgets to replace.
  • Simple, get the one with the 8 track tape player.......:S
    And Happy Thanksgiving to you too.