burningman wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
I beleive you could put 4500lbs in the back of a new dually and not “need” a thing to haul it all day long.
That’s also a moot point. New 2500-5500 trucks will blow away the old iron in every conceivable aspect except simplicity.....and they’re not that much more difficult to work on imo.
I love older trucks but the comparison isn’t apples to apples. Things change.
You forgot cost effectiveness. I *could* go pay $75k for a pickup truck but I just can’t see doing that and it making sense. A new 3500 won’t actaully haul any more than any dually from the last 30 or 40 years, regardless of what rating number they hung on it. I carried a big camper and towed a 10,000 trailer (22,000 total) over the mountains between Seattle and Nevada countless times in a completely stock ‘86 crewcab dually, big block manual trans, and never had any trouble at all.
I still own that truck, it’s my zero-electronics backup for when any of my newer vehicles doesn’t run. It ALWAYS runs and has no problem with 4500 pounds in the bed.
The old rigs aren’t as fast but you can make ‘em as powerful as you want with a Cummins swap, if that matters. They even have kits nowadays, it’s pretty easy.
It's always fun to inflate the numbers to support your argument. You could drop 75 on a new Aisin Laramie Limited, Denali, King Ranch Platinum whatever, but I do agree with you to a point. Because if you've noticed, I'm still one of the anti weight cop guys on here. Older trucks, apples to apples will haul the same loads effectively. Never said they wouldn't. Discussion started with Jaycocreek saying the new ones wouldn't haul as much.
However, if you want to talk cost effectiveness, NO you don't have to drop 75 large for a new diesel dually. More like 50 after taxes for a new Tradesman Cummins dually. But I digress......
Take the new cost of your 2ndGen, then add the retail "installed " cost of everything you got listed in your sig that you've upgraded your 2nd gen with and get back to me.
Not saying "you" paid that much, prolly did the work yourself, maybe bought the truck used, etc. But a fair across the board comparison, especially including inflation, I bet puts your truck within a hairs breadth of a new one.
However, the day a person begins to claim that their old 2nd Gen, Squarebody Chev or Ford, or 7.3 SD, bone stock is even close to the new trucks in performance or comfort, is the day that person is either justifying all the $ they spent on their old rig having fun with it, or is just jealous of the new rigs.
I love the wife's old 07 Mega cab, for most things until it comes to a cross country trip. Loud, old seats, crappy stereo, needs a couple more parts replaced that "clunk", needs another overdrive gear, etc. New one is like a Cadillac by comparison. I've had all 3 brands latest model trucks, save for my last F250 was a '15 model. I've got a better than average basis for comparison.
