Remembered why I got a F450 with 4.30 gears ... observation.

mike/kellie wrote:
This topic has really gone around the block in whatever gears you have. Throw in a tighter turning radius than most 3500's and we'll get 3 more pages.

Maybe that's the issue, I should have focused on the turn radius differences. Then, probably someone would say that some car would turn tighter and then they'd explain that we are dumb for not tent camping. :)