Required diesel additive for all new trucks

Bedlam wrote:
For those of you suggesting a search to find the answer, add a link to a search that will answer the question asked. This will do two things:

1. Answer the original question
2. Show the person how and what to search

Searched 'New diesels requiring fuel additive'

Got the answer right away.

New Diesels Requiring fuel additive

What is the additive in new diesel trucks?
Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is a non-hazardous solution, which is 32.5 percent urea and 67.5 percent de-ionized water. DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream of diesel vehicles to break down dangerous NOx emissions into harmless nitrogen and water.

Mike

For those of you suggesting a search to find the answer, add a link to a search that will answer the question asked. This will do two things:

1. Answer the original question
2. Show the person how and what to search

Learjet wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Learjet wrote:

Road Phantom wrote:
Gmcsmoke, most of us here on the forum join to learn more about the RV lifestyle, not to be criticized for what we don't now. Not everyone is familiar with diesel trucks just because you are. It's not a matter of living under a rock, but ducking the rocks thrown your way. A day will come when you won't know the answer to something and we will find you here asking that question.

I agree...but...Google works great for simple questions :)

Then why have forums at all than?

Google will take you to forums also...:) and with forums you can learn how to search :)

We seem to have 3 types of responses here. The original reponse was snarky, enough said. It's okay to suggest Googling as long as you suggest what to Google, i.e. Google DEF. Just saying to "Google it" isn't helpful in the least. Finally there are the majority of responses which indeed are helpful. We all need to remember to think twice before hitting Post.

blt2ski wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

v10superduty wrote:
And it may be on the way out to be replaced by something else!
The scientist are starting to think the disappearing bee population " may"
be a result of DEF usage.
Only a theory for now but the timing kinda fits?

Yep "the disappearing bee population" doesn't have anything to do with the pesticides and weed killers we spray on our lawns and have been for the last 40 years right?

Reduced food for the bees and pesticides are to blame not DEF. But I'm sure if you looked at the funding for this so called
science you will find names like DuPont, Monsanto, Scott's and the like.

I grew up on a farm and the farmer (we didn't farm) behind us would have his field crops dusted. Killed the five honey bee hives that he had alongside his field. This happened three years in a row until he stopped having his fields dusted.

Don

Don,

What is kinda funny about your post, is how many folks I run into upon occasion wish DDT was still available as an insecticide! While not a farmer as you mention, more of an urban farmer horticulturist for the last 40 years, I have seen the damage by pesticides. DDT is one that I am personally glad is not around. We have bald eagles, herrons, and many other larger birds that were being killed via DDT, as they were eating insects sprayed with, not dead, smaller animals that ate the insects etc that had been sprayed with DDT. That went into system, mad their egg shells too thin, young did not live/survive in the egg stage.
I realize I am using the term funny about post, reality is, it is not funny ha ha! To more funny that you are saying the same basic thing I am saying.......
Then there was the client that was mad I would not put diazanon on his lawn because some crane flies were flying around having sex, laying eggs........contact insecticides do not work on the ground when adults are in the air! lost a client over that one!

Marty

You know who wishes DDT was still available?

The millions of people who died from Malaria because it wasn't available.

I know. Not the funny punchline, we were all hoping for.

The latest real science on this chemical pretty much blows all the emotional Rachel Carson cr@p right out of the water. The whole egg-shell thinning and bird population turned out to be way overblown. The prior being the result of application much higher than is needed for efficacious results.

Yeah, the whole DDT deal is a bad scene.

Would encourage anyone interested in the topic to do their own research. It's really a fascinating (and tragic) story.

Learjet wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Learjet wrote:

Road Phantom wrote:
Gmcsmoke, most of us here on the forum join to learn more about the RV lifestyle, not to be criticized for what we don't now. Not everyone is familiar with diesel trucks just because you are. It's not a matter of living under a rock, but ducking the rocks thrown your way. A day will come when you won't know the answer to something and we will find you here asking that question.

I agree...but...Google works great for simple questions :)

Then why have forums at all than?

Google will take you to forums also...:) and with forums you can learn how to search :)

And I guess shame on the OP for even asking, before Google.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Learjet wrote:

Road Phantom wrote:
Gmcsmoke, most of us here on the forum join to learn more about the RV lifestyle, not to be criticized for what we don't now. Not everyone is familiar with diesel trucks just because you are. It's not a matter of living under a rock, but ducking the rocks thrown your way. A day will come when you won't know the answer to something and we will find you here asking that question.

I agree...but...Google works great for simple questions :)

Then why have forums at all than?

Google will take you to forums also...:) and with forums you can learn how to search :)

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

v10superduty wrote:
And it may be on the way out to be replaced by something else!
The scientist are starting to think the disappearing bee population " may"
be a result of DEF usage.
Only a theory for now but the timing kinda fits?

Yep "the disappearing bee population" doesn't have anything to do with the pesticides and weed killers we spray on our lawns and have been for the last 40 years right?

Reduced food for the bees and pesticides are to blame not DEF. But I'm sure if you looked at the funding for this so called
science you will find names like DuPont, Monsanto, Scott's and the like.

I grew up on a farm and the farmer (we didn't farm) behind us would have his field crops dusted. Killed the five honey bee hives that he had alongside his field. This happened three years in a row until he stopped having his fields dusted.

Don

Don,

What is kinda funny about your post, is how many folks I run into upon occasion wish DDT was still available as an insecticide! While not a farmer as you mention, more of an urban farmer horticulturist for the last 40 years, I have seen the damage by pesticides. DDT is one that I am personally glad is not around. We have bald eagles, herrons, and many other larger birds that were being killed via DDT, as they were eating insects sprayed with, not dead, smaller animals that ate the insects etc that had been sprayed with DDT. That went into system, mad their egg shells too thin, young did not live/survive in the egg stage.
I realize I am using the term funny about post, reality is, it is not funny ha ha! To more funny that you are saying the same basic thing I am saying.......
Then there was the client that was mad I would not put diazanon on his lawn because some crane flies were flying around having sex, laying eggs........contact insecticides do not work on the ground when adults are in the air! lost a client over that one!

Marty

Learjet wrote:

Road Phantom wrote:
Gmcsmoke, most of us here on the forum join to learn more about the RV lifestyle, not to be criticized for what we don't now. Not everyone is familiar with diesel trucks just because you are. It's not a matter of living under a rock, but ducking the rocks thrown your way. A day will come when you won't know the answer to something and we will find you here asking that question.

I agree...but...Google works great for simple questions :)

Then why have forums at all than?

v10superduty wrote:
And it may be on the way out to be replaced by something else!
The scientist are starting to think the disappearing bee population " may"
be a result of DEF usage.
Only a theory for now but the timing kinda fits?

Yep "the disappearing bee population" doesn't have anything to do with the pesticides and weed killers we spray on our lawns and have been for the last 40 years right?

Reduced food for the bees and pesticides are to blame not DEF. But I'm sure if you looked at the funding for this so called
science you will find names like DuPont, Monsanto, Scott's and the like.

I grew up on a farm and the farmer (we didn't farm) behind us would have his field crops dusted. Killed the five honey bee hives that he had alongside his field. This happened three years in a row until he stopped having his fields dusted.

Don

DEF is saving the planet one plastic bottle and cardboard box at a time.