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Paul_D_
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Jan 06, 2015

Reroofing follow up

Back in Sept. I reroofed our 08 Gulfbreeze Gulf stream 26 w/ a rear slide. It had felt back TPO and had wicked up a bunch of moisture thru the top of the rain gutter as well as a failed front fairing termination. The underlayment was replaced and the roofing redone with new EPDM. It was done outside so it was tarped when not being worked on.
The plan was to replace a few of the ceiling panels in the fwd bunk room as they were soft and showed some delamination. More for look than structural integrity . I devised a fan contraption that covered the fwd hatch and forced air into the space between the ceiling and the roof, for the purpose of this post I will call it the "Attic". Had a bit of time to work on it over the holidays so I ordered a few ceiling panels figuring I could knock it off in a few days. Wrong!!!
Upon gutting the ceiling it was apparent the
"attic" had trapped the moisture that had remained in the framing and wall. To my dismay it was wicking up into the the new underlayment from the bottom ( I had sealed the top with plywood sealer). Now wishing I sealed the bottom as well. Enough moisture wicked back up to allow green mold to start forming on the new underlayment. This would be a good place to point out there is no way there are any new leaks in the roof, I was "anal" about every aspect of the reroofing , think over built.
There was a dehumidifier running from Sept thru oct. and all the vent and skylight trims were removed to help vent out any excess moisture, it did not work.
I gutted a little more ceiling into the bathroom where there was a soft spot, more moisture and mold.
This made me concerned as I recalled the wettest spot was in the rear corner near the slide, but the ceiling panels were ok back there.

What to do?? After much pondering I came up with what should be a permanent solution. Treat it like an attic, add ventilation. I drilled 3" holes in every other bay (area between rafters) and used a paint stick to pull back the insulation a bit. Sure enough the rear corners were damp and showed mold on the new underlayment. I treated all the moldy areas with bleach and a mold preventative, cranked up the heat and got the humidity down to 45% inside the rig for over a week. The moisture has stopped coming out of the walls, and the mold has stopped growing. Rigged up a forces air fan foe the attic and had the dehumidifier cranking till tonight. Temp are going to bottom out so I am gonna let it all sit for a while. The 3 " holes will be plugged with Soffet vents so I can air out the "attic more in the spring". I can use the holes to monitor the condition of the underlayment, and then just add recessed lighting in the future if it totally dries out.
I plan to use a vapor type mold killer in the spring and run the dehumidifier on a semi permanent basis. The last pic. shows the soffit vent installed. Planning to use 12 of the vents evenly spaced. I would like to seal or Get-Rot the affected areas before putting up the new ceiling panels but am hesitant to do so until I am sure all the latent moisture ids gone.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to treat any mold I may not be able to see? Vapor? Air flow?









  • ksg5000 wrote:


    I wonder how much mold you have inside the walls - and while you can't see delam now I wouldn't be surprised that it's something that going to show up down the road.


    I have no doubt there will be some issues. Bought it very short and have invested very little other than time, so if I can get a few seasons out of it I will be way ahead. Had all the corner trim off to reseal with new putty tape when doing the roof, definitely some moisture and black mold in the worst areas. Let a few of the worst spots dry out and bonded back together with Gorilla Glue and custom clamps. Surprisingly these areas are showing the least amounts of dampness now. If I had been able to leave the roof open for a few days in an enclosed space , pretty sure there would have been no issues now. There was very little "evidence" of any leaking. The only way I knew the roof needed attention was the soft spots along the roof above the rain gutters for 6" to a foot. Good reason to get up there often and walk around.
    If I was to do it again, would opt for waterproof components for the underlayment. Fully encapsulated marine ply or even 1/2 Azak. Would have doubled the cost of the roof, but never would have had to worry about it again.
    Considering FRP (fiberglass reinforced panels) for some of the ceiling sections. Has anyone used this stuff for ceiling panels?
    Some pics of the reroof.











  • Paul D. wrote:
    Yes there is some moisture in the outter skin in the walls in a few spots.Not enough to cause major delamination, but enough to be wicking back up .


    I wonder how much mold you have inside the walls - and while you can't see delam now I wouldn't be surprised that it's something that going to show up down the road.
  • Yes there is some moisture in the outter skin in the walls in a few spots.Not enough to cause major delamination, but enough to be wicking back up . It will take a while to get it all dried out . I don't expect it to completely dry till temps warm back up in early spring. Thus the reason to add the soffit vents.
    The vinyl coating laun that was the ceiling ran full sheet out over the edge of the wall. In the pics it us under the main roof frame rail; this vinal coating acted/acts like a barrier to the moisture so it is/ was only able to wick into the outter laminate skin. There was a little delamination in the front fairing, but a little epoxy fixed that right up.
    The walls are foam sandwiched between fiberglass (outside) and papered luan on the inside. Is there a way to drain it out the bottom. BTW there are NO soft floor issues. Checked all over and even inspected the skin under the floor for moisture bubble.
    Thanks for the replies!
  • My Cardinal has attic vents on the roof. It has the vent covers like used over the plumbing vents. They cover a 2" hole in the roof.