Rivian 1/2 ton high temp, grade test. Good read/video

I just read that article earlier this morning and was shocked they did not say how much battery power the climbs used. Without that information it is all fluff. Guess they didn't want to say.

Reisender wrote:

Yah. Comparative testing would be nice. Side by side tables are easy to follow and make decisions accordingly.

However I would think that towing range is not that big a deal for most F150 owners. Or at least around here. Most F150 owners here never tow anything, or if they do it is a 6000 pound travel trailer or 4000 boat they use on the weekend.

Comparative testing will get more important when one of the manufactures gets interested in the 3/4 ton or 1 ton market someday. And when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised if ford is first to the plate.

Yes, most 1/2 tons don't do a lot of towing but a significant percentage do some (I'm betting in raw numbers more 1/2 tons tow RVs than 3/4 and 1 ton combined)...and since 1/2 tons is where they are going electric first, it is absolutely a critical criteria to establish the capability.

Even if it's a 3000lb trailer, it's wind resistance that really eats up range. I have a small enclosed utility trailer and even empty, there is a noticeable drop in MPG.

A 6000lb trailer is right in the ideal range for a typical 1/2 ton truck.

10,000lb trailers, really most are moving up to 3/4 ton anyway.

But a typical travel trailer in each of those weight ranges wouldn't be hard to run the test and would give a very good idea of the impacts of towing on range since that's what it's all about if they are talking battery powered tow vehicles.

Me Again wrote:

Reisender wrote:
And when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised if ford is first to the plate.

You mean the ElecBoost Ford power train. I think we need a electrified 3rd rail or over head lines like trolleys use! Charge as you go!

I had to google that electric power boost thingy. Interesting stuff. Thanks. I haven’t been following hybrid tech although I know Toyota is concentrating on it instead of pre electric vehicles.

Reisender wrote:
And when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised if ford is first to the plate.

You mean the ElecBoost Ford power train. I think we need a electrified 3rd rail or over head lines like trolleys use! Charge as you go!

valhalla360 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

1320Fastback wrote:
So 100 miles towing then. Got it.

I didn't see them mention any numbers like that. Was that on the video or in the write-up.

I didn't either...just the Davis Dam Route which is about 12 miles long. I didn't see where it indicated what percentage of range, that ate up.

Of course, no one ever claimed electric cars couldn't put out big HP or torque...the entire issue is they can't do it for long enough to be viable.

I have to agree with the other commenter that misleading tests only hurt the EV movement.

If you want to impress people with towing capability, do a table of tests where you run a 10mile circular route with some moderate grades and use various size trailers...then post the table and details of how far it would go with each trailer size. That will give people a usable idea of what the truck can do.

Yah. Comparative testing would be nice. Side by side tables are easy to follow and make decisions accordingly.

However I would think that towing range is not that big a deal for most F150 owners. Or at least around here. Most F150 owners here never tow anything, or if they do it is a 6000 pound travel trailer or 4000 boat they use on the weekend.

Comparative testing will get more important when one of the manufactures gets interested in the 3/4 ton or 1 ton market someday. And when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised if ford is first to the plate.

Reisender wrote:

1320Fastback wrote:
So 100 miles towing then. Got it.

I didn't see them mention any numbers like that. Was that on the video or in the write-up.

I didn't either...just the Davis Dam Route which is about 12 miles long. I didn't see where it indicated what percentage of range, that ate up.

Of course, no one ever claimed electric cars couldn't put out big HP or torque...the entire issue is they can't do it for long enough to be viable.

I have to agree with the other commenter that misleading tests only hurt the EV movement.

If you want to impress people with towing capability, do a table of tests where you run a 10mile circular route with some moderate grades and use various size trailers...then post the table and details of how far it would go with each trailer size. That will give people a usable idea of what the truck can do.

1320Fastback wrote:
So 100 miles towing then. Got it.

I didn't see them mention any numbers like that. Was that on the video or in the write-up.

So 100 miles towing then. Got it.

wanderingaimlessly wrote:
Seems to be a nice "promo"
The lack of a real world comparasion is glaring.
Try to be realistic next time.
Longer distances, real world circumstances, a "Benchmark comparasion" would be helpful.

Yah a little skimpy on the numbers. Maybe in the “next episode”. :). Still fun read.

Seems to be a nice "promo"
The lack of a real world comparasion is glaring.
Try to be realistic next time.
Longer distances, real world circumstances, a "Benchmark comparasion" would be helpful.
edit add
I think most folks on here would accept a real world comparasion, even with a drop in capability in order to get a legitimate comparasion. But promotional bs claims hurt even the green movement when they are so blatant.
Put your product out there honestly, or stay in your basement until you can withstand the light of day.