Rivian Electric Truck takes on the Ike Gauntlet

The Volt was a loser as far as profit, but I know several people that own them, one guy I know has two in his family. They do like them.

FishOnOne wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
Dadoffourgirls,

I'm not a GM hater. But volt was a wrong path to a BEV.

I owned two GM products over the years and drove them both into the ground.

I recall reading every Volt GM sold had a $10,000 bill wrapped around it per say. GM made more money if they sold less Volts.

Yes and the even lower volume EV1 had at least $100,000 wrapped in it. That is why they had closed end leases.

pianotuna wrote:
Dadoffourgirls,

I'm not a GM hater. But volt was a wrong path to a BEV.

I owned two GM products over the years and drove them both into the ground.

I recall reading every Volt GM sold had a $10,000 bill wrapped around it per say. GM made more money if they sold less Volts.

Dadoffourgirls,

I'm not a GM hater. But volt was a wrong path to a BEV.

I owned two GM products over the years and drove them both into the ground.

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.

For you GM haters, the Volt was only powered by battery. The range extending gasoline engine did not power the vehicle. Therefore, it was designated a BEV.

Except that is not true.

Yes the first 50 some miles was just electric, yes the engine could charge the battery, And yes the engine also directly powered the axle when the battery was getting low.

Durb wrote:

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.

For you GM haters, the Volt was only powered by battery. The range extending gasoline engine did not power the vehicle. Therefore, it was designated a BEV.

Couldn't be more wrong. Once the batteries are depleted in the Volt, the gasoline engine hooked up directly to the drive train and would offer another 300+ miles of range. An ingenious design.

Contrary to a subsequent post, the Bolt is not a hybrid. It has a battery and electric motors, that's all.

That was me. I typed bolt instead of volt. I have corrected it. Good eye.

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.

For you GM haters, the Volt was only powered by battery. The range extending gasoline engine did not power the vehicle. Therefore, it was designated a BEV.

Couldn't be more wrong. Once the batteries are depleted in the Volt, the gasoline engine hooked up directly to the drive train and would offer another 300+ miles of range. An ingenious design.

Contrary to a subsequent post, the Bolt is not a hybrid. It has a battery and electric motors, that's all.

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.

For you GM haters, the Volt was only powered by battery. The range extending gasoline engine did not power the vehicle. Therefore, it was designated a BEV.

I get the technology and it worked great. Same for the BMW I3. But at least here it was never classified as a BEV. They are registered as hybrids here. At the time there were certain incentives for EV’s and a much smaller incentive for hybrids. They only qualified as hybrids.

It’s interesting that they were classified as BEV’s in some places. The volt t was a great car that was first to the table in terms of its series hybrid technology. Hybrids are losing their popularity but in my opinion will be around to some degree for decades.

All JMHO.

pianotuna wrote:
Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.

For you GM haters, the Volt was only powered by battery. The range extending gasoline engine did not power the vehicle. Therefore, it was designated a BEV.

Reisender,

GM called it a Bev--which it clearly was not.