Say it ain't so. GM

Even 50 lbs, if it gets them greater rating than the other guys, gives them temporary "bragging rights". That say "highest rating in its class", not "we beat the other guys by 10 lbs".

ib516 wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
Much ado about nothing. How much does the bumper weigh? Maybe 50#.

As for the tires and wheels, that is unsprung weight, so the only way for that to produce a higher number is if the tires/wheels are rated to carry more weight.

The entire weight of the truck counts as curb weight, even unsprung weight.

I'd also argue that removing a rear bumper, spare tire, jack, radio, and the center console, then swapping in lighter weight wheels lighten a truck a lot more than 50#.

Agreed...

Only weigh (pun) to tell is to weigh your trucks.

Huntindog wrote:
Much ado about nothing. How much does the bumper weigh? Maybe 50#.

As for the tires and wheels, that is unsprung weight, so the only way for that to produce a higher number is if the tires/wheels are rated to carry more weight.

The entire weight of the truck counts as curb weight, even unsprung weight.

I'd also argue that removing a rear bumper, spare tire, jack, radio, and the center console, then swapping in lighter weight wheels lighten a truck a lot more than 50#.

If the folks at RAM are being honest, they do not "fudge the numbers" like Ford and GM do.

"Ram says it takes the lightest base model, weighs it will all necessary fluids and deems that the curb weight for payload calculations. But Ford and GM do it differently; they delete some everyday items from their base pickups to reduce their weight and thereby boost their payload ratings.

But Ford and GM appear to be alone in this approach. "Ram Truck Engineering calculates the base weight and does not change the weight with 'delete-able options,'" said spokesman Nick Cappa."

No wonder RAM always has the lowest payload. They were being honest.

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What? Leave out just a few minor parts and then figure the payload?
Naw...they wouldn't do that, would they?