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zab
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Aug 02, 2014

Shaking/Shuddering while towing trailer

Hi, I have a 2012 Honda Odyssey. I have a Class 3 hitch installed, and am pulling a 2800 pound, 17' Viking trailer. I use a Weight Distributing Hitch with Sway Control (550 pound rated), and also have a Tranny cooler installed. I haven't driven it loaded yet, just me, but I'd like to add in my wife, kids and some luggage, while staying under the 3500 pound tow limit, if I can crack this problem:

When I am towing I feel like the van is shuddering (from front to back, or vice versa) any time I accelerate/brake, go over small bumps, at low speeds, moderate speeds or highway speeds (-55mph). It's a "chug-a-chug-a-chug-a" type of feeling, not high/fast vibrations. Everything is properly connected, as confirmed with the dealer. Most experienced towers tell me to check the sway control: I have tried more friction, less friction, etc, but it's still there. It is NOT a side to side motion. The electric brake controller is working and I feel like the brake controller is set to the right setting. If I turn the brakes up, it creates a noticeable shudder/shock, okay, that's too high. If I turn it down, I can feel the van doing all the braking and taking forever to stop. So I don't think it's the brakes, plus it's like I said, this happens when starting to accelerate or hitting bumps in the road as well.
It feels like the trailer is really pushing/pulling and turning my van into a bucking bronco.

I'm thinking it might be the WDH shifting too much weight forward? I have it set on the third link (which makes the bars parallel with the A-frame), but maybe I should try another link?

I've driven other vehicles before (dualie pickups) while towing heavy loads, and didn't experience anything like this...I'm not an expert, but a concerned amateur!

Thanks!

EDIT: one thing i forgot: the shudder happens with just the ball on the hitch, no WDH.
  • You shouldn't have to use all that much force to snap in the chains. If you're doing things correctly and using the TT's tongue jack raised up just past level before you engage the chains....
  • thanks for the help! i can tell there's several hundred pounds of force on the hitch (from two of trying to deadlift it!), and the chains take a decent amount of muscle to get into place, using the pry bar. If it were any harder to lift them I think the average person wouldn't be able to do it without working really hard.

    When I kick the bar/chain they don't budge, for what that's worth.
  • Is a WDH permissible with that TV? I know that many SUV makers specify no WDH, although that may be just the European ones.

    I was always told that the proper settings for a WDH were that both the TV and TT be level, front to rear, and that the only reason for considering the bars was to get them in the right weight range. Or am I wrong about that?

    In any case, it does sound like there's something not right. Good luck getting it sorted out.
  • Try taking it for a test tow without the W/D or sway control installed. That trailer's pretty light- your Ody should do up to 350 pounds on the ball just fine. Sway shouldn't be a problem at low speed test drive, but if you're nervous about going without the sway control, make sure tongue weight is correct and keep the speed below fifty.

    If you don't get the same shudder, you've narrowed it down to one of two things. Add the two components back one at a time (if you still think them necessary) to determine which is causing the problem.
  • If your tow vehicle is porpoising (rocking front to rear axle like a fish jumping out & into the water), likely there is not enough weight on the front axle meaning your bars are not pulling up enough. It should take some effort to lift the bars into place. If you get to the level-with-frame position too easily you may need to tilt the ball assembly rearward so that the bar tips are nearer the ground. Then you are loading the spring bars more to pull them to level position.