Turtle n Peeps wrote:
carringb wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
If you consider a 15 to 20% energy loss "similar" I guess. I don't. And lets not even talk about the power loss. If you want to; go talk to some of the school bus drivers that went from diesel to NG and see what they have to say. You will get an ear full. :E
I'm not aware of any school bus MFGs that offer LNG. Many offer CNG, which is less energy dense. LNG and CNG are very different animals. There is no performance loss when using LNG. The primary disadvantage is the high conversion cost and limited fueling locations. Some fleets have started moving towards LNG
http://pressroom.ups.com/Fact+Sheets/ci.LNG+Fact+Sheet.print
NG is NG is NG. CNG is compressed. LNG is liquid. Same stuff, just stored different that's all.
When you use NG as a fuel it is down power and WAY down on mileage.
UPS is using it ALONG with diesel. Way different than using it as a straight fuel.
As you can see here, NG is almost half the BTU's of diesel. LNG has 75,000 BTU's / Gallon and diesel has 130,000 BTU's. Look at the GGE of NG. It's right there with pure alkie and that sucks as a fuel.
Here is a great chart that explains the advantages and disadvantages of NG.
LNG and CNG are not the same. 5.66 pounds or 126.67 cu. ft. of CNG has 100% of the energy of one gallon of gasoline. A
GALLON of LNG has 75%.