should have got gas.
OK so my vol fire dept bought this really nice2012 F550 attack pumper last year and they justhad to have the power stroke in it. A fwe of us tryed to tell them to go with the V10 but they were dead s...
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I'm not backpedalling. I still don't understand how you got that out of what I posted. Did you really think I meant one engine would get the same power running on diesel, gasoline, or natural gas? Of course not. You just assumed I was talking about the same engine for NG and gasoline because that is what you had in mind.
I'm agreeing with you! I agreed with every point. Diesel gas more energy density (energy/volume) and it takes less of it to do the same work. You seem to have taken offense that I argued that energy density in the fuel tank wasn't the question.
The only place I think we differ is that I believe other engines can do the same work as a diesel.
And this discussion has little to do with what engine they should have put in their fire truck. With the new emission systems a gas engine may have been a better choice. The gas engine would be able to do anything a diesel could and the only modification needed to make them equal might be a larger gas tank.
But "new" always seems to have problems. When I was in the FD in '85 we had F-600 and F-700 trucks (maybe 650 and 750, I don't remember) all with gas engines. The oldest was a '62 model and the newest was an '84. The only one that gave us trouble was the '84 and that was just with one driver. Everyone tried to blame the emissions system, but it turned out it was just floating the valves and stalling when it was over-rev'd.
I'm agreeing with you! I agreed with every point. Diesel gas more energy density (energy/volume) and it takes less of it to do the same work. You seem to have taken offense that I argued that energy density in the fuel tank wasn't the question.
The only place I think we differ is that I believe other engines can do the same work as a diesel.
And this discussion has little to do with what engine they should have put in their fire truck. With the new emission systems a gas engine may have been a better choice. The gas engine would be able to do anything a diesel could and the only modification needed to make them equal might be a larger gas tank.
But "new" always seems to have problems. When I was in the FD in '85 we had F-600 and F-700 trucks (maybe 650 and 750, I don't remember) all with gas engines. The oldest was a '62 model and the newest was an '84. The only one that gave us trouble was the '84 and that was just with one driver. Everyone tried to blame the emissions system, but it turned out it was just floating the valves and stalling when it was over-rev'd.
