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jefe_4x4
Sep 04, 2015Explorer
It would be nice to see what the actual cause and effect is with each truck. It has been my experience that truck mfgrs., especially Dodge (and not so much Ford) try like crazy to give you only the minimum information to get their product across the finish line.
After reading the chart, it seems to me that just going from an extra cab down to a regular cab is a BIG increase in cargo capacity, way beyond the slight decrease in weight. And what about that touted 3.0L, V-6 Diesel's ability to move with a camper? Non existent. Must be a lightweight. I'm sure a lot of combined 'logic' has gone into making these tables, but I for one am not impressed. The one bright spot for TC-er's was the 3500 with a nearly 6000 pound cargo capacity. Of course, 2 WD, reg cab, gas, striped.
Just the minimum info gets us nowhere.
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The light weight 3.0L diesel reminds me of the past. Historic glimpse, beware: Do not continue reading if nostalgia offends you:
I've lived long enough to see the first wave of new concept vehicles come and go. In about 1978, International Harvester came out with an 80 HP, 3.3L, 6 cyl. Nissan Diesel in their Scout and Traveller 4WD's. The engine alone weighed 950 pounds. What a boat anchor. In fact, the engine was used around the world as a boat engine that would just keep running with its 23:1 compression ratio. This was well before the 'diesel warz' started around 2000. The hungry-for-diesel folks glommed onto this new rig and tried to pull long, heavy trailers which totally swamped the normally aspirated rig. I have this snap shot in my head going down the 5 fwy near San Onofre, passing a 1979 Scout Diesel pulling this impossibly long trailer, pumping the black @ 45 mph in the slow lane. I'm sure the driver spent a long time in each of the 4 speeds of the Warner Gear T-19, all synchro trans. to get up to 45 mph. At least he had his oil burner and was getting better mpg than a big block Chevy 454, Ford 390, or Dodge 401. We bought a used 1980 Traveler after they upgraded the engine to 101, neck snapping turbo charged HP. Slightly better but still no match for heavy loads or towing.
jefe
After reading the chart, it seems to me that just going from an extra cab down to a regular cab is a BIG increase in cargo capacity, way beyond the slight decrease in weight. And what about that touted 3.0L, V-6 Diesel's ability to move with a camper? Non existent. Must be a lightweight. I'm sure a lot of combined 'logic' has gone into making these tables, but I for one am not impressed. The one bright spot for TC-er's was the 3500 with a nearly 6000 pound cargo capacity. Of course, 2 WD, reg cab, gas, striped.
Just the minimum info gets us nowhere.
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The light weight 3.0L diesel reminds me of the past. Historic glimpse, beware: Do not continue reading if nostalgia offends you:
I've lived long enough to see the first wave of new concept vehicles come and go. In about 1978, International Harvester came out with an 80 HP, 3.3L, 6 cyl. Nissan Diesel in their Scout and Traveller 4WD's. The engine alone weighed 950 pounds. What a boat anchor. In fact, the engine was used around the world as a boat engine that would just keep running with its 23:1 compression ratio. This was well before the 'diesel warz' started around 2000. The hungry-for-diesel folks glommed onto this new rig and tried to pull long, heavy trailers which totally swamped the normally aspirated rig. I have this snap shot in my head going down the 5 fwy near San Onofre, passing a 1979 Scout Diesel pulling this impossibly long trailer, pumping the black @ 45 mph in the slow lane. I'm sure the driver spent a long time in each of the 4 speeds of the Warner Gear T-19, all synchro trans. to get up to 45 mph. At least he had his oil burner and was getting better mpg than a big block Chevy 454, Ford 390, or Dodge 401. We bought a used 1980 Traveler after they upgraded the engine to 101, neck snapping turbo charged HP. Slightly better but still no match for heavy loads or towing.
jefe
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