So who will be first with an electric pickup. And when.

Chicago has at least one garbage truck that is electric. China has a few thousand. They aren't little trucks either, so it can be done.

John & Angela wrote:


So they are probably talking hybrid platforms as well. I can see that although I think the hybrid platform has more of a gap filler role to play in the next decade. A hrbrid pickup could be interesting, especially for those who use them as grocery getters during the week. A lot of folks like to drive pickups as daily drivers besides the weekend trailer hauler role. We did.

The next a decade is a bit of an overly optimistic timeline, but I understand given your liking for electric vehicles. Thinking logically and without bias, I would put that out for another few decades. Heck, even the Departments of Energy's 2050 projections still see combustion engines still being used in two thirds of the vehicles by then. If we make pulling fuel from air more attainable, then that might stretch that out even longer depending on the costs. It basically boils down to overall cost and time for refueling/recharging for the consumer unless the government forces it on its people.

Who much Combined GVW do you really think a totally electric PU will have? It will probably be like the GM diesel PUs of the 1970s that limited a trailer to 750 lbs. :S

Maybe when batteries get to 50% per pound of energy denisty of oil, instead of 1% of LI batteries it will work for RVing. Even if I was 20 I doubt I would live long enough to see it.

ShinerBock wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
Ford plans US$11 billion investment for 40 electrified vehicles by 2022. Link below.

https://www.bnn.ca/ford-plans-us-11-billion-investment-for-40-electrified-vehicles-by-2022-1.968176

Your title says "electric", but the title of the link says "electrified". There is a difference between the two.

An "electric" vehicle runs solely on electric motors while "electrified" can simply have an electric motor somewhere in their drive train. Like the Jeep Wrangler's 2.0L that also uses an electric motor to move the vehicle from a stop for a short period of time(since this consumes the most fuel) and then switches to gas once it has momentum. Ford is more than likely going to have something similar on many of these 40 vehicles in this timeline, not pure electric vehicles.

Could be but I kinda get the impression they are talking about BEV's.

Not according to the article.

"Of the 40 electrified vehicles Ford plans for its global lineup by 2022, 16 will be fully electric"

Most will be "electrified".

So they are probably talking hybrid platforms as well. I can see that although I think the hybrid platform has more of a gap filler role to play in the next decade. A hrbrid pickup could be interesting, especially for those who use them as grocery getters during the week. A lot of folks like to drive pickups as daily drivers besides the weekend trailer hauler role. We did.

John & Angela wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
Ford plans US$11 billion investment for 40 electrified vehicles by 2022. Link below.

https://www.bnn.ca/ford-plans-us-11-billion-investment-for-40-electrified-vehicles-by-2022-1.968176

Your title says "electric", but the title of the link says "electrified". There is a difference between the two.

An "electric" vehicle runs solely on electric motors while "electrified" can simply have an electric motor somewhere in their drive train. Like the Jeep Wrangler's 2.0L that also uses an electric motor to move the vehicle from a stop for a short period of time(since this consumes the most fuel) and then switches to gas once it has momentum. Ford is more than likely going to have something similar on many of these 40 vehicles in this timeline, not pure electric vehicles.

Could be but I kinda get the impression they are talking about BEV's.

Not according to the article.

"Of the 40 electrified vehicles Ford plans for its global lineup by 2022, 16 will be fully electric"

Most will be "electrified".

troubledwaters wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:
Wouldn't this be more appropriate for one of those electric vehicle sites instead of a RV site?

Good morning. Well, not really. This is the tow vehicle forum and thats what the thread is a about. Just an EV version. EV's make pretty good tow vehicles. I can see a nice ford silver half ton pulling an airstream. Sweet.

Anything less then ideal driving conditions and they can barely get 200 miles with a EV car. Now add a 8,500 lbs TT, chilly fall day with rain and you'd be lucky if you made it to the next city before you needed a charge. They are a long way off for an electric tow vehicle. Topic is way off for a RV site.

Well, I'll leave that up to the engineers to decide. My guess a long way off is about 5 years though. That goes pretty quick.

John & Angela wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:
Wouldn't this be more appropriate for one of those electric vehicle sites instead of a RV site?

Good morning. Well, not really. This is the tow vehicle forum and thats what the thread is a about. Just an EV version. EV's make pretty good tow vehicles. I can see a nice ford silver half ton pulling an airstream. Sweet.

Anything less then ideal driving conditions and they can barely get 200 miles with a EV car. Now add a 8,500 lbs TT, chilly fall day with rain and you'd be lucky if you made it to the next city before you needed a charge. They are a long way off for an electric tow vehicle. Topic is way off for a RV site.

ShinerBock wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
Ford plans US$11 billion investment for 40 electrified vehicles by 2022. Link below.

https://www.bnn.ca/ford-plans-us-11-billion-investment-for-40-electrified-vehicles-by-2022-1.968176

Your title says "electric", but the title of the link says "electrified". There is a difference between the two.

An "electric" vehicle runs solely on electric motors while "electrified" can simply have an electric motor somewhere in their drive train. Like the Jeep Wrangler's 2.0L that also uses an electric motor to move the vehicle from a stop for a short period of time(since this consumes the most fuel) and then switches to gas once it has momentum. Ford is more than likely going to have something similar on many of these 40 vehicles in this timeline, not pure electric vehicles.

Could be but I kinda get the impression they are talking about BEV's.

troubledwaters wrote:
Wouldn't this be more appropriate for one of those electric vehicle sites instead of a RV site?

Good morning. Well, not really. This is the tow vehicle forum and thats what the thread is a about. Just an EV version. EV's make pretty good tow vehicles. I can see a nice ford silver half ton pulling an airstream. Sweet.

troubledwaters wrote:
Wouldn't this be more appropriate for one of those electric vehicle sites instead of a RV site?

I agree. This has nothing to do with rv'ing.