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Feb 17, 2021

Solar with Lithium Battery

I will be purchasing a Battle Born lithium battery in a month or so. My truck camper came with a solar charge controller, inverter and I can simply drop the new battery in place of the lead acid one by flipping a din switch and changing the settings on my charge controller from flooded to lithium.

My question is I have one 100 watt solar panel. What is the charge rate like? I have a portable 2000 watt generator that works great, but it would be even better to leave it behind.

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My truck camper came with a solar charge controller, inverter and I can simply drop the new battery in place of the lead acid one by flipping a din switch and changing the settings on my charge controller from flooded to lithium.

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My question is I have one 100 watt solar panel. What is the charge rate like? 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What would the advantage of six volt SiO2's be?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"57","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-23T16:58:04.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-23T16:58:04.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":529},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436166","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"65","rawBody":"Steve,

What would the advantage of six volt SiO2's be?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436166_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:49":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:49","position":1,"name":"Moderator","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:211310":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:211310","uid":211310,"login":"StirCrazy","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-07-16T18:42:38.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:49"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:211310"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436165":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436165","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436165":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:211310"},"id":"message:3436165","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436165,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436165"},"body":"
pianotuna wrote:
Steve,

SiO2 are slightly lighter than lead acid, and slightly smaller. The 100 amp-hour jar is a Group 27 iirc.


ok Im looking at the GC 6V ones and there bigger and heavier. I coulnt fit them in my camper if I tried haha. weird how different classes are different like that.

Steve","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-23T16:18:46.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-23T16:18:46.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":528},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436165","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"362","rawBody":"
pianotuna wrote:
Steve,

SiO2 are slightly lighter than lead acid, and slightly smaller. The 100 amp-hour jar is a Group 27 iirc.


ok Im looking at the GC 6V ones and there bigger and heavier. I coulnt fit them in my camper if I tried haha. weird how different classes are different like that.

Steve","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436165_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:1368":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1368","uid":1368,"login":"egarant","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-12-01T12:03:55.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1368"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436164":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436164","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436164":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1368"},"id":"message:3436164","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436164,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436164"},"body":"I've had two LifeBlue 125 ah batteries for almost 3 years now. I have a Xantrex 2000 watt inverter connected to all the outlets in the TC and have 460 watts of solar on the roof.

I went with the LIfeBlue batteries as they have a built in bluetooth system that provides all kinds of battery info, takes the place of wiring in a system for the same info.

You have to get as much solar on the roof as possible, maybe just buy the one battery now and fill your roof with solar and if you need more then buy another battery.

Do however make sure you purchase a good MPPT controller, I us a Renogy, and get it large enough to handle maximum solar panels you will have on the roof.

Cheers,
Eric","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-22T08:54:08.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-22T08:54:08.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":528},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436164","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"737","rawBody":"I've had two LifeBlue 125 ah batteries for almost 3 years now. I have a Xantrex 2000 watt inverter connected to all the outlets in the TC and have 460 watts of solar on the roof.

I went with the LIfeBlue batteries as they have a built in bluetooth system that provides all kinds of battery info, takes the place of wiring in a system for the same info.

You have to get as much solar on the roof as possible, maybe just buy the one battery now and fill your roof with solar and if you need more then buy another battery.

Do however make sure you purchase a good MPPT controller, I us a Renogy, and get it large enough to handle maximum solar panels you will have on the roof.

Cheers,
Eric","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436164_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436163":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436163","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436163":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:3436163","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436163,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436163"},"body":"Steve,

SiO2 are slightly lighter than lead acid, and slightly smaller. The 100 amp-hour jar is a Group 27 iirc.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"114","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-22T06:39:30.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-22T06:39:30.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":529},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436163","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"122","rawBody":"Steve,

SiO2 are slightly lighter than lead acid, and slightly smaller. The 100 amp-hour jar is a Group 27 iirc.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436163_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436162":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436162","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436162":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:211310"},"id":"message:3436162","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436162,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436162"},"body":"
BFL13 wrote:
You can take a pair of 6s down below 50% without much penalty in number of lifetime cycles, so that would be the first choice IMO. However once that low you can only run low amp draws, not the inverter which will alarm off depending on load and how far down you are in SOC.

LFP (and SiO2 within reason) will be happy to go to a low SOC and still keep the voltage up to allow the inverter to operate.

The real problem is recharging the batts of whatever type when they need it if you only have solar and it is overcast. We have no room for a portable gen in our TC, so that leaves running the truck. Low amp long time recharge not so good.

LFPs are not going to change that. You could still be sitting there with the batts out of AH and no sunshine. You might get an extra overcast day out of it with LFP, but then what? If you have a portable gen, you could have used it two days ago with your pair of 6s.

Seems the LFP option would make sense given the right scenario though.


yup, I totaly agree, unless you have the ability to assemble your own LFP batteries, in that case you can make a 280 Usable AH battery that is 1/3rd the weight and less than 1/2 the size of thoes 6V batteries, with almost 3 times the usable AH, which even with out solare would give some one a extended outting. they allso will run an inverter right down to the bitter end with out it alarming depending on how the battery is set up. if your using every last AH, then they would go to about 10% before the inverter starts alarming.

in the truck camper would where we are all about weight, size and capacity, I dont see a better battery. Led acid if you are going for maximum life you can only use 50%, Sio2 are heavier and bigger than lead acid (just a bit) and let you use 80% of the capacity with out shortening the life. but LFP are lighter, smaller and give you 100% of the capacity for 4000ish cycles and more if you only use 80%.

Steve","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-22T04:41:37.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-22T04:41:37.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":358},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436162","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2052","rawBody":"
BFL13 wrote:
You can take a pair of 6s down below 50% without much penalty in number of lifetime cycles, so that would be the first choice IMO. However once that low you can only run low amp draws, not the inverter which will alarm off depending on load and how far down you are in SOC.

LFP (and SiO2 within reason) will be happy to go to a low SOC and still keep the voltage up to allow the inverter to operate.

The real problem is recharging the batts of whatever type when they need it if you only have solar and it is overcast. We have no room for a portable gen in our TC, so that leaves running the truck. Low amp long time recharge not so good.

LFPs are not going to change that. You could still be sitting there with the batts out of AH and no sunshine. You might get an extra overcast day out of it with LFP, but then what? If you have a portable gen, you could have used it two days ago with your pair of 6s.

Seems the LFP option would make sense given the right scenario though.


yup, I totaly agree, unless you have the ability to assemble your own LFP batteries, in that case you can make a 280 Usable AH battery that is 1/3rd the weight and less than 1/2 the size of thoes 6V batteries, with almost 3 times the usable AH, which even with out solare would give some one a extended outting. they allso will run an inverter right down to the bitter end with out it alarming depending on how the battery is set up. if your using every last AH, then they would go to about 10% before the inverter starts alarming.

in the truck camper would where we are all about weight, size and capacity, I dont see a better battery. Led acid if you are going for maximum life you can only use 50%, Sio2 are heavier and bigger than lead acid (just a bit) and let you use 80% of the capacity with out shortening the life. but LFP are lighter, smaller and give you 100% of the capacity for 4000ish cycles and more if you only use 80%.

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LFP (and SiO2 within reason) will be happy to go to a low SOC and still keep the voltage up to allow the inverter to operate.

The real problem is recharging the batts of whatever type when they need it if you only have solar and it is overcast. We have no room for a portable gen in our TC, so that leaves running the truck. Low amp long time recharge not so good.

LFPs are not going to change that. You could still be sitting there with the batts out of AH and no sunshine. You might get an extra overcast day out of it with LFP, but then what? If you have a portable gen, you could have used it two days ago with your pair of 6s.

Seems the LFP option would make sense given the right scenario though.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-21T05:55:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-21T05:55:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":338},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436161","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1028","rawBody":"You can take a pair of 6s down below 50% without much penalty in number of lifetime cycles, so that would be the first choice IMO. However once that low you can only run low amp draws, not the inverter which will alarm off depending on load and how far down you are in SOC.

LFP (and SiO2 within reason) will be happy to go to a low SOC and still keep the voltage up to allow the inverter to operate.

The real problem is recharging the batts of whatever type when they need it if you only have solar and it is overcast. We have no room for a portable gen in our TC, so that leaves running the truck. Low amp long time recharge not so good.

LFPs are not going to change that. You could still be sitting there with the batts out of AH and no sunshine. You might get an extra overcast day out of it with LFP, but then what? If you have a portable gen, you could have used it two days ago with your pair of 6s.

Seems the LFP option would make sense given the right scenario though.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436161_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436160":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436160","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436160":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:211310"},"id":"message:3436160","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436160,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436160"},"body":"
pianotuna wrote:
Steve,

I want my RV to behave as if it were plugged into a 15 amp shore power outlet. That takes a large battery bank, and a way to recharge.

Each to their own! We all love camping.


dont forget we are in the truck camper forum right now, no such thing as a large battery bank unless you use LFP.

this is what started my whole lookng at LFP in the first plce. with two big 6V GC batteries which I had to put in my storage commpartment as they wouldnt fit in the battery compartment (Yes I have an older camper) I can only muster 105AH of usable capacity. I do have a 325 watt pannel on it with room for another and a 40 amp Mppt controler, so getting sun it isnt bad at all, kept it at 100 every day, but as I found out last fall at around freezing at night when I am running the furnace after two days of no sun and or a shady campsite, I was down to about 60% which means I used 80 of my 105 availble AH. the only way for me to get a big bank would be to build two 280AH LFP batteries an put them in the same space, but I think if I just build one that will be good and I can get my storage space back.

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pianotuna wrote:
Steve,

I want my RV to behave as if it were plugged into a 15 amp shore power outlet. That takes a large battery bank, and a way to recharge.

Each to their own! We all love camping.


dont forget we are in the truck camper forum right now, no such thing as a large battery bank unless you use LFP.

this is what started my whole lookng at LFP in the first plce. with two big 6V GC batteries which I had to put in my storage commpartment as they wouldnt fit in the battery compartment (Yes I have an older camper) I can only muster 105AH of usable capacity. I do have a 325 watt pannel on it with room for another and a 40 amp Mppt controler, so getting sun it isnt bad at all, kept it at 100 every day, but as I found out last fall at around freezing at night when I am running the furnace after two days of no sun and or a shady campsite, I was down to about 60% which means I used 80 of my 105 availble AH. the only way for me to get a big bank would be to build two 280AH LFP batteries an put them in the same space, but I think if I just build one that will be good and I can get my storage space back.

Steve","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436160_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436159":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436159","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436159":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63866"},"id":"message:3436159","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436159,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436159"},"body":"+1 what Steve said.

Compares with our TC set up designed to last four days off-grid at dog training place with no gen and get home with batts not dead yet. Needs 200AH or more of battery bank (any kind of battery--pair of 6s is best bang for buck) and the 255w panel. If overcast, can't do it without some battery charging. Run the truck engine is one way. (No room for a portable gen with all the dog crates)

Idea is you lose some capacity every day where solar does not restore all your useage, but you don't get too far down by the end. Go home, plug in, and get a badly needed full recharge. A battery monitor helps keep track of how that is working during the four days.

On the edge if one LFP will be enough. Risk is if not then you have to get another one just like it--can't get a cheapo for the second one and mix them. Big bucks for two! You could just get two 6s and know that will work, but might be a space or weight problem in your TC. You can run 6s down below 50% to get more AHs and not kill them so that gives you some wiggle room.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-20T08:28:29.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-20T08:28:29.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":338},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436159","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1094","rawBody":"+1 what Steve said.

Compares with our TC set up designed to last four days off-grid at dog training place with no gen and get home with batts not dead yet. Needs 200AH or more of battery bank (any kind of battery--pair of 6s is best bang for buck) and the 255w panel. If overcast, can't do it without some battery charging. Run the truck engine is one way. (No room for a portable gen with all the dog crates)

Idea is you lose some capacity every day where solar does not restore all your useage, but you don't get too far down by the end. Go home, plug in, and get a badly needed full recharge. A battery monitor helps keep track of how that is working during the four days.

On the edge if one LFP will be enough. Risk is if not then you have to get another one just like it--can't get a cheapo for the second one and mix them. Big bucks for two! You could just get two 6s and know that will work, but might be a space or weight problem in your TC. You can run 6s down below 50% to get more AHs and not kill them so that gives you some wiggle room.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436159_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:181966":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:181966","uid":181966,"login":"jaycocreek","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-12-28T05:52:42.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:181966"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436158":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436158","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436158":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:181966"},"id":"message:3436158","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436158,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436158"},"body":"
My question is I have one 100 watt solar panel. What is the charge rate like?


My experience here is,one 100 watt 23% efficient panel brings in on average 50-70 watts while two would more than doubles that..My opinion is based on what I have seen with my panels,I would need atleast two 100 watt panels to keep up with a heavily used single battery know matter what type..

So my theory is, 200 watts of solar per battery and of course the sun plays a big role...

My panels are portable because of where I use my TC..I'm just hesitant to put one on the roof..The hole thing with lithium vs lead acid vs how much solar get's confusing with many different opinions..I have panels for the roof saved for later on Amazon and just can't poke that button...

Good luck","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-20T08:18:00.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-20T08:18:00.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":338},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436158","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"829","rawBody":"
My question is I have one 100 watt solar panel. What is the charge rate like?


My experience here is,one 100 watt 23% efficient panel brings in on average 50-70 watts while two would more than doubles that..My opinion is based on what I have seen with my panels,I would need atleast two 100 watt panels to keep up with a heavily used single battery know matter what type..

So my theory is, 200 watts of solar per battery and of course the sun plays a big role...

My panels are portable because of where I use my TC..I'm just hesitant to put one on the roof..The hole thing with lithium vs lead acid vs how much solar get's confusing with many different opinions..I have panels for the roof saved for later on Amazon and just can't poke that button...

Good luck","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436158_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436157":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3436157","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3436157":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:3436157","revisionNum":1,"uid":3436157,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3436133"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3436133"},"subject":"Re: Solar with Lithium Battery","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3436157"},"body":"Steve,

I want my RV to behave as if it were plugged into a 15 amp shore power outlet. That takes a large battery bank, and a way to recharge.

Each to their own! We all love camping.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"187","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-02-20T08:15:41.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-20T08:15:41.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":338},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3436133/message:3436157","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"203","rawBody":"Steve,

I want my RV to behave as if it were plugged into a 15 amp shore power outlet. That takes a large battery bank, and a way to recharge.

Each to their own! We all love camping.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3436157_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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